Je werkt voor de graanlobby en je roept eens wat…

Je bent diëtiste en verdient een leuke boterham met het geven van speeches en lezingen op kekke conferenties als het jaarlijks terugkerende Cereal Congress. Daar pak je internisten, cardiologen en collega’s in met je leuke plastic smoeltje en gratis mueslirepen. Je staat hoog genoteerd op de lijst van General Mills’ sprekersbureau en organiseert geregeld internationale vakbijeenkomsten over de zegeningen van volle granen. Je bent de held van de jaarlijkse Whole Grains Summit. De zaken gaan goed. Het gelijk en het economische fortuin zijn aan jouw zijde. Dan komt er een cardioloog die op basis van zijn klinische ervaring en wat literatuurstudie een populair boek schrijft waarin hij stelt dat overgewicht en een waslijst kwalen primair het gevolg zijn van de consumptie van… tarwe en andere granen. Hij noemt het Wheat Belly (Tarwebuik) en adviseert de lezers eens een poosje helemaal geen tarweproducten te gebruiken. Het lijkt idioot, iedereen denkt dat het geen kans maakt. Maar een paar mensen proberen het. Ze zien allerlei klachten als sneeuw voor de zon verdwijnen – althans dat zeggen ze. En, krijg nou wat, binnen de kortste keren is het verrekte boek een bestseller. De boodschap verspreidt zich als een virus. Er wordt zelfs minder brood verkocht!

Wat doe je dan als je diëtiste Toby Amidor heet? Je schrijft op de jou zo vertrouwde badinerende toon een autoritair stukje op een veel gelezen mainstream webportal. Belachelijk dieet, stel je met grote zekerheid. Een typische fad, tekorten aan allerlei voedingsstoffen liggen op de loer, volle granen zijn absoluut noodzakelijk in een gebalanceerde humane voeding.

Davis’ adviezen komen feitelijk neer op een soort liberaal paleo-dieet. Niet geheel toevallig is het juist zijn met oneliners en ‘enthousiaste simplificaties’ doorspekte boek dat enorm verkoopt. Het gevolg is dat grote delen van de Verenigde Staten momenteel experimenteren met een graanvrije voeding. De honderden reacties op Toby Amidors stukje vormen dan ook een prachtige peiling van wat (soft)paleo zoal met mensen doet. Ik denk niet dat Amidor dit verwacht had. Vandaag zet ik al die anekdotes (n=driehonderdnogwat) hier op een rij. Engels, het spijt me. Maar als dit alles nieuw voor je is, scroll er dan vooral eens doorheen. Misschien brengt het je op een idee. Misschien verandert het zelfs je leven.

I have lost 40 pounds in 3-1/2 months following this plan. I eliminated grains and sugar and it has been a breeze! I love it — it has been one of the easiest plans I have ever followed — no hunger or cravings whatsoever! In case you are wondering…there was no exercise involved in my 40-lb weight loss. Dr. Davis is my hero! 🙂


Sorry, but wheat does not have a place in any diet. The concept of ‘healthy whole grains’ is a creation of the highly subsidized grain industry and our corrupt government. Eliminate it and feel tons better or include it and get joint pain, migraine headaches, fatigue…. This one is a no brainer.


I haven’t eaten wheat for almost 17 years. I’m at a normal weight for my height, rarely get sick, look 10 years younger than I really am, and have plenty of energy. Tell me again why eating wheat is necessary and how “unrealistic and unhealthy” this diet is?


I read this book and decided the only thing I would do is cut wheat from my diet. I have cut it out completely and since then my A1C has dropped down to normal and I don’t have as much pain with my Rheumatoid Arthritis. I have not lost any weight at all. I still suffer from a lot of symptoms that he says will go away so it doesn’t work for everyone. You have to see how your body reacts to the foods you eat.


I am an absolute Wheat Belly convert as of 4 months ago. It is by far the easiest, most nutritious and delicious way to eat. My husband has lost 18lbs and I have lost 14lbs and we feel amazing both physically and emotionally. We are so glad that we discovered Dr Davis and Wheat Belly, this is so easy to sustain there is no question that it can be ‘for life’.


Wheat Belly is not impossible to follow. I started last winter and have been grain free since. I have ZERO desire to have grains because I feel so good. . I dare anyone to give up grains for 30 days, I bet people would be shocked on how good they feel. I no longer get migraines, acid reflux, joint pains, and my hair and skin look amazing! I am off my anxiety medicine as well. Consuming wheat is unhealthy plain and simple. Thanks Dr. Davis for educating everyone!!


I’ve tried many ways of eating and LOVE following the wheat belly way. I have more energy, GONE are those horrible cravings for food, those hunger pangs which often led to cheating. – I’ve lost about 10 lbs, my IBS symptoms are gone, pain in legs and knees much reduced, watery eyes – gone, blocked nose symptoms – gone. My skin is clear and smooth and I actually look younger. I also sleep much better! 

Try eliminating grains and see what happens. I dare you. 

Never again will I eat wheat – it’s not worth going back to pain and suffering.

“this diet is just plain unrealistic and unhealthy.” A baseless assertion if there ever was one. Last summer I was 64 going on 84. Now I am 65 going on 35. The transformation is amazing for me, and all I did was to switch from low-carb with wheat to low-carb without wheat. 


I know of several situations where a flatworlder like you was convinced to just try the Wheat Belly way for several weeks. Every time, the flatworlder was surprised,.. very pleasantly surprised. Arthritis pain, headaches, blood pressure, diabetes, weight loss, heart disease, skin smoothness, energy, moods, just to name a few,… all these things happen time and time again. 


So,… Toby,.. put your money where your mouth it. Try it for 6 weeks. What have you got to lose?


It’s not a DIET! It’s a new way of life! I’ve been wheat /grains/sugar free for 2 months and I feel awesome! Read the book and educate yourself!

Another Wheat Belly fan here. I’ve been wheat/grain/sugar free since January 3 and have lost 47 lbs. My husband joined in at the end of May and has lost 32 lbs. Started for weight loss but plan to continue indefinitely just because it’s the most healthy way to eat. Your article is very misinformed. No where does the book suggest that you need to eliminate sweets forever–just look at the recipes in the back of the book for sweets (hint: sugar is not the only sweet thing around). And it certainly is not impossible to follow this plan while traveling or dining out–I’ve been doing just that for 10 months. One of the great benefits is reduced hunger, thereby making it much easier to lose weight this way rather than conventional diets.


“It is virtually impossible to follow this plan while traveling or dining out.” Thats interesting? I just arrived home from a weeks holiday in Port Douglas, North Queensland and had no problem at all in eating? lol. 


“Going cold turkey isn’t an effective way to teach someone good habits.” What rubbish! I stopped eating all grains in November last year, no trouble at all! 🙂 


“Many folks will stop this diet just as quickly as they started it.” Evidence please? More unsubstantiated rubbish. 


“Fasting for prolonged periods of time is unhealthy and unsafe.” So who suggested fasting? I have not fasted in the eleven months I have been enjoying the LCHF Wheat Belly lifestyle !


My current wife is a high-carb-low-fat-low-cholesterol-low-calorie flatworlder. She has much more difficulty eating out than I. A Wheat Belly practitioner needs only some combo of meat and veggies,.. and then you add on from there if you feel like it, but Wheat Belly types have so much less need for the piled up quantities of food the flatworlders crave. Once you have been Wheat Bellying for more than a few weeks, the hunger issues decline so much, you realize what you were living with before was more like an obsession, than normal eating. It doesn’t matter where we eat,.. I can always find something. She looks at many menus and says, “I can’t find anything here I can eat.”


I truly hope that anyone who reads this baseless review of Wheat Belly also takes the time to read these comments! The Wheat Belly lifestyle is about SO MUCH MORE than weight loss! (This is coming from someone who has lost 27 lbs, and my husband has lost 37… the weight loss is real and easy and wonderful, but the best benefits are freedom from pain!) 


Wheat is an extremely inflammatory substance which cannot be digested properly in the human body. Consuming wheat leads to all sorts of issues such as joint pain, migraines and headaches, acid reflux, allergies, sinus issues, digestive problems such as IBS, high LDL cholesterol, visceral weight gain, obesity, diabetes and MORE… seems like a pretty long list of ailments for a supposed “health food”! There aren’t any nutrients in wheat that cannot be found elsewhere in foods that do not have these terrible side effects. However, wheat is cheap, plentiful, subsidized by the government and keeps the pharmaceutical industry happy because they can dole out meds for all those above-mentioned maladies that are chronic due to the ongoing ingestion of a TOXIN. Remove the toxin, remove the need for meds. 


Wheat is also addictive, and many people have to go through a detox and withdrawal period when they give it up. Ummm… other health foods don’t have withdrawal periods! When you go without broccoli or cheese for a week you don’t suffer because of it. That’s because wheat acts on the brain in the same way an opiate does! It is addictive and causes intense hunger cravings, which is why most people find actual freedom from food cravings for the first time in their lives when they are off the wheat. That is also the reason that the author of this article is completely mistaken when they say that people can’t do this long term. The exact OPPOSITE is true! My family has been off wheat since March, and it’s the easiest, smartest and most effective lifestyle change we have ever made. We will never eat wheat again, of our own free will. 


The book does not promote fasting unless someone wants to do so (and some people love to!) … however, the lack of hunger definitely leads to eating fewer meals for most people. Also, we snack… it’s just that many times a snack may stand in for a meal because the appetite is just not out of control! 


We eat out all the time, but we eat healthy foods… steak, seafood, baked or grilled chicken, bunless burgers, big beautiful salads or steamed veggies with butter, some soups. Maybe you can’t eat at fast food joints, but c’mon, what health plan suggests that you do? 


And as for travel? It’s easier than ever because we aren’t having to stop for snacks all the time! Pack some cheese, hard-boiled eggs, nuts, chilled grilled meat, some berries, maybe chocolate chip cookies or cream cheese bars made with almond flour or coconut flour… easy peasy! 


The notion of “Healthy Whole Grains” and a low fat diet has had its chance over the past 30 years, and it led to an out of control obesity and diabetes epidemic and a very happy Pharmaceutical industry. It’s time now to ditch the wheat, grains and sugars and up the fats while eating plenty of veggies, meats, nuts and cheeses with an occasional indulgence of fruit. Try it for a month before you bash it! There comes a time in life when even the most avid “believer” (dietician, doctor) needs to admit that they were wrong, and take comfort in the fact that they thought they were promoting truth, and it wasn’t their fault… but NOW is a different story. Nutritional science is proving that grains are damaging, and the thousands of anecdotal stories from people who feel amazing, back it up. When people’s lives are changed drastically and fundamentally for the better, they tend to be vocal about it 😉


Such a disappointing article! I’ve lost 30 pounds by giving up wheat. The crunchy/salty cravings for crackers, cereal and toast I’ve had all my life are GONE! I swear to god I crave veggies now, I’m about to cook up some kale and spinach with onions and bacon. I usually only eat 2 meals a day because I just am not focused on having to constantly eat. It is so refreshing!


Giving up wheat was the best food choice I ever made. I’ve never felt better.


The wheat we get these days is not the wheat our grandparents ate. It is so modified that it can do harm to the body. I feel so much better not eating wheat even through I have no medical reason not to eat it. I have less inflamation in my body. The dental hygenist even asked what I was doing differently. Cravings are gone!


Eliminating grains is not just about weight loss. Many individuals have real medical problems digesting wheat and other grains. I know several people with Celiacs who just physically cannot tolerate wheat. So, no… wheat and grains cannot have a healthy place in EVERY diet. I am gluten intolerant, and definitely notice a difference in how I feel, when I do consume weight and grains, even in small quantities. As a registered dietician, Ms. Amidor, you should know better than to make blanket claims, or generalizations, about what is ‘healthy’ for everyone.


hmmmmmmmmm — sounds like somebody should’ve done a little more research prior to publishing this article.


70 lbs, all meds gone, pre diabetes gone, working really well for me!


It’s because of the “old school” way of thinking like this that is keeping our nation sick. If only the media would pick up on the most healthful way to eat (as described in Wheat Belly) we’d be a healthy nation. Oh, but what about poor Big Pharma… or Big Food.. I hope everyone reading this blog post reads the comments for the truth.



Wow, this article is so off-base. I have been gluten (wheat and other gluten grains) free for over 4 years now, prior to Wheat Belly being published. With the elimination of gluten and wheat from my diet, I have also eliminated migraines, 20 pounds, joint aches, fatigue, and numerous other complaints that I had put down to just getting older. It is EASY to eat out this way. The Wheat Belly diet is very similar to a paleo-based diet of eating REAL foods, like pastured beef, pork, and chicken, green leafy vegetables, root vegetables, and some fruit. Wheat and other grains and legumes contain plant toxins that are hazardous to everyone’s health. Please do your research before publishing such a biased commentary.


Wheat has NO place in my diet. I’ve lost and kept off about 25lbs in the last year and eliminated both acid reflux and psoriasis. Every time I slip up and have a little wheat, intentionally or not, my skin breaks out and the heartburn returns. No thank you!


Ummmmm…… How is a plan unhealthy when after 2 days I no longer had acid reflux, heartburn, restless leg syndrome, cravings and was able within 3 months to be taken off of my high cholesterol medicine? I eat more veggies and fish than ever before. And, it is not difficult at all and it is very easy to eat out. Eggs for breakfast, salad with tuna for lunch and a small portion of fish or lean protein with lots of veggies, is unhealthy? I think not!


I have been wheat free for over a year and have lost over 80 lbs on a low carb wheat free diet. Contrary to the assertion in this article, wheat free diets are very easy to follow–if you are willing to give up processed foods. Frankly, the idea that processed foods are in any way necessary for nutrition is preposterous; we certainly aren’t better off than before they found their way into the standard diet, and the little effort it takes to eliminate them is not beyond the ability of most. 


I am often asked how I lost so much weight, and when I describe how I eat I am often told “But I can’t give up bread!” To me, it sounds like an addict saying he or she can’t give up the addictive substance. I did it, it was tough, I craved it, and then it was over. Now wheat and sugar filled products hardly register as food.


Bloating Gone, 60lbs gone, head clear, pain in gut gone, gas gone, feel so much better yes!, having fun creating healthy recipes Yes! I can be done, be positive, the world is changing for the better and Monsanto is making a mess of our food. That’s why these issues with mass food allergies are happening. The food is becoming unnatural and our bodies are Natural! Not made from chemicals or splicing or crap. 

Simple math. Even the major restaurant chains are starting to offer gluten free bread. So let’s get on this people. 

That’s my vent.


I challenge the author to list ONE THING that is unhealthy about the Wheat Belly eating plan. When I started this program I needed to replace wheat and processed foods with eating more vegetables (red peppers, broccoli, kale, spinach leaves, cauliflower, cucumbers, squash, avocados, etc., etc.). What nutrients am I missing out on by replacing wheat-based products and processed junk with real, whole vegetables? I was already eating lean meats and limited dairy and cheese, so there was no change needed there for me. I still eat healthy fruits when I want to. My Results? I have lost 40 pounds in the past 8 months without even “dieting” (i.e. I have not once deprived myself — I eat until satisfied whenever I want).


I have been on this wheat free eating for 1 month now. My mind is not foggy anymore and I have lots more energy. But I am finding myself to be constipated. Is this normal or what can be done about it? I do drink 6-8 cups water most days .


Eliminating wheat is not a diet fad, it is a lifestyle choice made on scientific evidence and the conscious choice to give up unhealthy GMO grains that we are force fed by the food industry and told are healthy. Wheat is not necessary for health at all! Went wheat free and it was easy! No more cravings for bagels, bread, or other high carb crap. My anxiety levels are lower, no more acne, no more headaches, and more focus and energy than ever before. Eating out or while traveling is easy. There are so many more gluten-free foods on the market, and even my favorite pizza place is offering a gluten-free crust. Read the research. This is not someone’s hair-brained fad diet. There is medical evidence to support all of Dr. Davis’ claims. Also…where in the book does he advocate fasting with water? That doesn’t make sense.


Hey Toby, answer me this… Name one essential carbohydrate? What? You can’t? 


If there were not problems with this “frankenwheat” and other GMO foods, then explain the exploding obesity epidemic. How about the upward rise in Diabetes for the past half century? Keep your blinders on dude, Keep drinking that cool aid.


I quit eating wheat 4 months ago and have gained 15 pounds… of MUSCLE!! I fit into clothes that fit me when I was 15 pounds lighter, and can go all day on my breakfast omelet! Lost 25 lbs overall and will no doubt get fitter and slimmer. Ride all my horses in one day, carry a bale of hay in each hand, flip a 50 lb. sack of feed up onto my shoulder, carry 100 lbs. of feed with ease…. could NOT do that when I lived on grains. BTW…. I stopped feeding grain to the horses YEARS AGO! They are dappled year ‘round now! I should have seen the connection, but it took Wheat Belly to open my eyes! I don’t follow the strict weight loss regimen…. eat some fruit and legumes, but don’t miss those blood sugar swings, cravings and incessant hunger! Think about it… people were evolved in a world where food was not available every 3 hours…. maybe more like 3 days! If you eat substantial food, it stays with you!


Husband and I read Wheat Belly over the summer while traveling in our motor home. We both eliminated wheat/grains from our diet and I, (the wife) noticed my little belly going down each day I was off of gluten. It was almost as if someone was letting the air out of my gut and I wasn’t real overweight. I began to loose my craving to EAT the goodies and non nutritional foods and in fact I could go hours without eating.. and mind you I know the value of little meals but my brain wasn’t focusing on FOOD! How could this be? 

We began this way of life to eliminate what we believe is very toxic for our bodies. We both feel so much better.. aches and pains are gone. I’ve lost several inches all over. Sugar cravings are gone.. It’s a way of life that is in our estimation, very easy to live. It’s a piece of cake.. well, gluten free that is!! When you see and feel the benefits of health and well being.. doing something different is just that.. different.. We will NEVER go back to eating wheat ! Bomb the bloat… We did !!


I think the person who wrote this article should have researched a wheat free lifestyle by actually trying it first. I guarentee it would have read differently! After a LIFETIME of fighting obesity and 7 years of diabetes, I read Wheat Belly. In 2 months time I lost 10 lbs, and 3 inches from my waist. My sugar and carb cravings disappeared in days. I sleep better than I have in years and have way more energy! My allergies, IBS and PMS are gone and my A1c has dropped almost to the point of no longer being diabetic. So as far as I am concerned, NO ONE (no matter how much of an expert they may be) can convince me that going wheat free is unhealthy.


On top of the digestive and excess weight issues that wheat contributes to, inflammation and psychological issues are also aggrivates by wheat/gluten sensitivities and intolerances. Dr. Natasha Campbell creates the Gut and Psychology Syndrome diet, GAPS for short. Read the book and see for yourself how many many people have created health by elininating wheat/gluten out of their lives. Symptoms of Autism are sometimes completely deminished by simply elininating wheat out the diet. Many conditions are made worse by wheat, not just wheat belly and excess weight. This fact is notjing nee to the holistic health world, it’s somewhat new to the comventional world and thank God it’s helping people improve their lives! In the past 50 years wheat in America has been so genetically altered that it barely resembles wheat from 50 years back. THIS is why it needs to be elininated from our food supply and kept out of our bodies.


I’ve eliminated all wheat from my diet in May of this year. I found the Wheat Belly book about 3 months after my wheat-free breakthrough, and was amazed at the info and confirmation that I was doing the right thing. I’ve lost over 40lbs and feel much healthier. I have about 60 more pounds I want to lose, but this is not a “diet,” it’s a lifestyle change, and I know I will reach my desired weight in time. I’ve also quit smoking, so I’m really impressed that I’m still (though at a slower pace) losing weight even though I’ve been binging a bit on pistachios, fruit and gluten-free granola. My roommate has also gone wheat and gluten-free and lost 25 pounds and reversed his pre-diabetic condition. This genetically mutated wheat is the reason for our obesity epidemic, I’m sure of it now. Corporations know that this “new” wheat acts as an opiate and appetite stimulant… the stuff is in everything! Cut the wheat and the un-natural “hunger” is a thing of the past. I no longer crave pastries, bread, cakes and other unhealthy stuff… I know I can make healthier gluten-free, low-glycemic, organic alternatives that are far more satisfying and nutritious.


Did you read the research? Did you see the success stories? I have been ‘wheat free’ for months and couldn’t be happier, or feel better! There is no place for ‘Frankenfoods’ like today’s wheat in anyone’s diet.


I read Wheat Belly a year ago November. I lost 14 pounds without effort and have kept them off. I no longer have variations in blood sugar levels. I eat significantly less and feel great. I’m a believer.


Out of all the many benefits to being wheat-free, I think my favourite is that finally, FINALLY, I have appetite control. Now I eat to optimize nutrition, whereas in the past I would continually be scrambling for my next “fix” of wheat-y, sugar-y, processed carb-age. The fact that I *want* to eat healthy things is a state of being that I was never able to get to when I was a wheat-eater. And boy oh boy, does it ever feel good.


I had no choice but to give up wheat and other gluten containing foods. Also had to give up milk due to the protein casein. 


This is NOT a fad diet, this book and this diet have healed my ailing body due to gluten sensitivity or intolerance. 


The mainstream media is putting out false information about going gluten free. Gluten sensitivity or intolerance is responsible for over a hundred auto immune diseases. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia, depression and chronic fatigue syndrome and had no problems finding doctors to prescribe toxic medications. Eliminating wheat and other gluten grains made me feel better in just a few days. There have been so many other amazing changes that I didn’t anticipate and I finally feel like I am living now. 


Eliminating wheat from your diet is not unhealthy. You have to eat a balanced diet. The nutrients that are gained from eating wheat can be found in other foods. 


Don’t let the mainstream media convince you that wheat products are good for you…you know your own body….if you have autoimmune diseases….you will be amazed at how good and how fast you will feel better. 


Remember all the folks telling you it is unhealthy have a vested interest in making money off of wheat. 


Rice and corn also have a form of gluten. Dr. Peter Osborne has some great videos on youtube and also some great information at Gluten Free Society.



I lost 111 pounds on the program, in 9 months, and have continued to follow it and have maintained the weight loss for the past 5 months. 

I have never, ever felt better in my life! I’m approaching 50. My knee pain, arthritis in two fingers, constant heartburn, migraines, allergies and vertigo are gone. I haven’t had a single one of them since August 2011 when I started.



My whole family has been wheat-free for over a year and we have all felt the benefits.



The author claims that nutrients are “eliminated” from the diet. Which ones? From what foods that are eliminated. Nutrient poor foods like grains, sugar, processed foods and legumes are better off not eaten, in place of nutrient-dense foods like meat, good fats, vegetables, nuts and fruit.



My husband and I have been wheat free for over a year now and are 30 lbs lighter and feel 20 years younger. This is easy to do when the results are so dramatic. I’m not out to preach to anyone but a lot of people sure ask me what’s different!



I’m waiting for my turn to check the book out of the library; but, I did visit the website and read extensively and gave up all grains except for rice. Within a day I had lost 2 inches of bloat off my waist. I have lost weight after years of frustration and increasing exercise and being told by doctors that it’s just my age (I’m entering menopause). It wasn’t just my age and I have a strong feeling that my migraines, skin problems, and other allergy conditions aren’t just my genes.



Wheat free 5+ months. Haven’t lost or gained weight but I didn’t need to. I eat as much fruit as I want and a small amount of either brown rice or oatmeal. It’s so great not to get hungry all the time and to feel better. Who knew you could eat this much fat and not gain weight? We’ve been so deceived about wheat but, then again, it’s a big lobby, as is the sugar industry, lots of money is spent to keep us fat and then we go to the diet industry and spend even MORE money. Go figure.



Have you even read the book?!? Please cite page(s) where he says you should ever fast, for any period of time!!! I have not lost a ton of weight since dropping wheat/gluten from my diet about five months ago, but I feel great! If you’re going to diss something, at least have the decency to read it first so you’re dissing it correctly. I believe in 20 years we will be looking back at the wheat-based, highly processed diet that is pushed today (even for diabetics!) and be astounded at our collective ignorance…

Are you kidding me? Just what nutrients do whole grains provide that meat and veggies don’t? 

I eliminated grains, dairy, and most nuts nine months ago and as proven by the lab work my doctor has done, have never been more healthy. I’ve also lost 46 lbs without even blinking.

I can not believe anyone would say every food has a place in the diet. That’s so not true! Wheat, being poison has no place in my diet. I stopped all grains a year ago and my health has turned completely around!! Losing weight was NOT my goal, getting healthy was. The weight loss came a perk. You are an irresponsible journalist at the least.



Lets think about this. What is more healthy…? A big ham sandwich or a spinach salad topped with salmon?? Your article is a joke. The Wheat Belly diet WORKS and is common sense. Why wouldn’t eating whole foods instead of insulin inducing bread be more healthy for us? I’ve tried the WB diet. It works, you can’t argue with RESULTS!!



The Wheat Belly plan has given my daughter and I our lives back! She suffered with disabling migraines and I had psoriatic arthritis. These were the two major health issues we no longer have. We were also cured of skin and digestive disorders to name a few more. We have more energy than we know what to do with! We have shared his advice with many family members and friends who are also feeling the difference! Dr. William Davis is our HERO!!!



Going wheat free/grain free has changed our lives. High blood pressure-gone. Asthma-gone. Allergies-gone. Skin issues-gone. Excess weight-gone.Joint issues-gone. This is a lifestyle change that everyone in our family has embraced and we all feel better. I love to bake and cook and this hasn’t changed my ability in the least to create wonderful desserts, side dishes and baked goods. Obviously the author hasn’t read the book and has no idea how easy this change is to make.



I have so far lost 60 lbs. by eliminating wheat and other grains. I walk for one hour 2-4 times a week, and that is usually my only exercise. Following this plan has given me a much more stable sense of energy during the day. I no longer feel tired in the afternoon. And even though I am not a morning person, I can now function during the morning and not feel like I am walking around in a fog until about 10 am. I eat much more veggies and healthy foods than I did when I filled up on carbs from grains. I am no longer pre-diabetic. 


So Toby Amidor, thank you for summarizing the Wheat Belly style of eating. I am not sure thought why you put a negative slant on it since it works so well and helps people feel good and enjoy a healthy body.



Since this article is on, I can only imagine that they want us to eat horribly unhealthy foods since that is what foodnetwork centers around. Oh yes, we watch the channel, and it has taught me many thing about cooking and using herbs, etc. But Foodnetwork….wheat is bad. You should consider more cooking shows that cater to the wheatless crowd…you might be surprised, you might just change the way America eats and then you would be a contributor to the their success instead of to their demise.



I have gone grain and sugar free for 2 months and have lost weight, mostly in my belly too!! Couldn’t be happier. I love eating out again – I can finally feel no guilt in eating meat and lots of it! Wheat belly is the best way of eating for life!



I lost 10 pounds without trying on this diet. I switched to it for other health reasons (gluten intolerance). The idea that anything “healthy” is eliminated is silly. I never feel hungry, when I do, I eat. I wish I had been eating this way my whole life.



Sorry Toby but you are so wrong. Since going off wheat 100%,here is what happened….No more back pain, no more diabetes (went from taking 50 units a day to NO meds at all). all my blood sugars are normal, lost 44 pounds, have to s of energy, no more cholesterol meds, no more blood pressure meds, and same for my husband. Also many of my friends have experienced the same benefits, including no heart disease as well as no more depression and on and on. Dr. Davis has been my inspiration and it probably would do you well to try his plan. He is a truly caring doctor who really wants people to be healthy and off their drugs. Thank you Dr. Davis!



Eliminating wheat, sugar, starchy veggies, grains, and most fruits has helped me lose weight, as well as eliminating chronic problems I’ve had since childhood, including acid reflux and terrible canker sores. It was the best decision I’ve ever made for my health. Belly bloat is gone, I don’t feel insulin spikes followed by ravenous hunger, and I have more energy.



For years I could not get my weight below 250 lbs, no matter how much exercise I did. Two years ago I switched to a low-carb/Paleo/wheat/sugar free diet and have lost over 105 lbs, I have gone from a high of 275 to 170 lbs. No longer pre-diabetic, all blood labs within normal range, taken off many medications. I have never felt better and have no problem following this type of diet at home or eating out. And I’m back to doing Triathlons after a 25 year rest period. 


It may not be for everyone, but it was the best health decision I ever made. Try it…you may be surprised.



Yeah yeah, new faddy diet, must be b*llsh*t, right? Wrong. I’ve been struggling to contain my weight problem for 20 years, and have tried many different diets. After giving up wheat in all forms I lost 4 kilos in 10 days, and what do you know, that weight has stayed off, and I’m not strict about anything else but wheat in my current eating habits. And also, since I stopped wheat, my high blood pressure has dropped to just about normal, and I have halved my blood pressure medication. I am hoping to be able to give it up altogether. Oh yes, and I’ve had IBS for years, and that has stopped, too. You want me to go on? 

I suggest you do a little research the next time you feel the urge to slag off something, Mr Amidor.



My mother is a celiac, and for years I struggled with anemia, calcium loss and abdominal bloating and discomfort, profound depression and 70+ lbs overweight, but no mention was ever made to me by my doctors that grain/gluten intolerance could have been a factor in my poor health until last fall. I have been following a paleo diet for the last two years, lost 40 lbs and all my health markers improved, but things really improved this year when I gave up gluten completely, not even in ‘treats’. I am now down another 30 lbs (size 10 to a 6); I have had NO seasonal allergies this year; my plantar fasciitis has cleared up; my moods and energy are very, very much improved. I have eliminated ‘whole food groups’ and dramatically improved my health: I am grain free, dairy free, and legume free and have never felt better.



My last check up my blood and cholesterol levels were excellent, my dr told me to keep up the good work. I work out three times/wk, all my life I never had the energy to do so until I adopted the paleo way of eating. There are toxic compounds in grains. legumes and dairy that affect so many adversely; this ridiculous advice to ‘take all things in moderation’ from health ‘experts’ like you is what keeps people fat, depressed, bloated and sick. My personal experience is that it is only whole, real, unprocessed foods with no toxic anti-nutrients that protect and promote good health. Instead of protecting your sponsors in big Agra and big Pharma, why not play devil’s advocate and really examine in depth the subject of anti-nutrients in food; Dangerous Grains; Why We Get Fat, The Paleo Solution and It Starts With Food are all excellent reads. Be part of the solution, not the problem. Thank you.



No Meds. This way of life changed my Life. I was on blood meds for 20 years heading for the big Diabetes. Will not go back. I will tell every person cut out All GRAINs.



Funny how some people get soooooo upset when you ask them to eliminate wheat and the processed, refined, food shaped chemical carbohydrate foods that they stuff down their throats for breakfast, lunch, and dinner…… mindless drones. These people are constantly hungry, tired, and irritable…….and after time, become overweight and strickened with a host of modern illnesses and health problems. These wheat based products and starches are simply MEGA SUGARS! They blow people’s blood sugar thru the roof! Higher than eating pure sugar. With a country that is in the midst of a diabetes / obesity epidemic (otherwise known as diabesity), and upwards of 75% of the population prediabetic… can we promote a high carbohydrate based diet? The American Diabetes Society recommends a diet based primarily on carbohydrates……whole wheat and “healthy whole grains”……..the very food stuff that that increases blood sugar! Diabetics have an issue metabolizing sugar……they can’t do it…….but are told, “Don’t worry, just inject MORE insulin”……this is insanity in the most basic sense! Read about how wheat and most grains are poorly digested, cause auto immune issues, leaky gut, diabetes, high blood pressure, messed up blood lipids, increased triglycerides……the list goes on and on. I dropped the wheat, lost 50 lbs, got off all my meds, perfect blood pressure now, and cholesterol , feel like I am 18 yrs old, tons of energy, never tired, and most importantly…….with a stable blood sugar I am never hungry and have no cravings! Wake up and smell the coffee people……..the healthly whole grain and wheat based diet promoted by the USDA (whose main job is to sell wheat…..the #1 taxpayer subsidized crop in the USA ) has been the biggest scam of the 20th century (which is when it started) till the present!



Food Network needs to put their article writers through a Journalism 101 class. Clearly, they do not recognize the difference between writing fact vs opinion, as is the case with the Wheat Belly article! The viewpoints/opinions expressed are unsubstantiated and not based on any journalistic efforts such as fact finding, research or statistical data. The ideas the author purports such as, ” Every food (even wheat) can have a place in your healthy eating plan.” are merely logical fallacies. The sweeping assumption that wheat is healthy without taking into consideration Big Ag’s genetic modifications, dirty processing plants, petroleum based fertilizers, etc is mindless reporting at its best. 



Wheat Free and Healthier Than I’ve Ever Been



I have lost 16 pounds in under 3 months eating the Wheat Belly way! Most importantly, my health is better. No more unexplained rashes, digestion problems, bloating, arthritic pains, and exhaustion. I have learned to enjoy cooking more veggies and meats for my family. My 7 and 10 year old boys eat less sugar and reach for a hard boiled egg or carrots and cucumbers instead of processed “whole wheat” snacks that have caused stomach issues and weight gain in them as well. 

This is easy to follow especially when you feel better everyday that you live this lifestyle! The paleo/wheat belly lifestyle is here to stay…but hopefully the low fat fad is on its way out!



Yes. Lost 70 lbs., no more allergies, no more joint pain, and all disease markers went down. Any other questions? 😉



124 pounds down after eliminating grains, high sugar fruits and starchy (high carb) veggies. Tell me again how I need “healthy whole grains?”



This diet is not unrealistic or unsafe! & only someone receiveing a paycheck or with an incredibly low IQ would say so! I have been a personal trainer for 20+ yrs! Your body has no nutritional requirement for sugar or starches! Your body runs much more efficiently on fat as a fuel! (ketosis: keeping carb intake to less than 100g of carns a day) You get plenty of fiber from raw nuts n seeds! When, all of a sudden did fasts become unhealthy? They’ve been utilized for centuries! Not impossibe to follow this plan & eat out 7 days a week! As long as the eatery serves meat or eggs & veggies, you’re good to go!!! This diet is all about eliminating an insanly unhealthy product, wheat, which, is no longer wheat, by the way & keeping your blood sugar in check! Which is at the center of obesity & a plethora of other diseases! Any questions? Refer back to my opening sentence!



You just don’t want to give up your precious grains. That is a sign of an addiction if you ask me. I gave up all grains (wheat, corn, rice, etc) for Lent back in February of 2012. I didn’t think much would happen other than massive cravings. So, I was surprised when my allergies disappeared that I’d been managing with prescription drugs for well over 15 years. I had communion on Sunday at Mass and they returned for three days. I tried taking communion (which is a tiny sliver of wheat about the size of a quarter) a few more times during Lent but the allergies always returned along with my snoring and restlessness. I can’t have it. As for lost nutrients when you take grains out of your diet, that food is enriched with vitamins. It doesn’t naturally occur in that food product. However, meat has 12 of the 13 essential vitamins (no vitamin C) in ample supply along with many other bonus minerals. You can get the balance of your daily needs from vegetables. Fat and Protein are essential. Carbohydrates are not essential. You will survive and thrive if you give up the grains, legumes and dairy. Try it, I dare ya.



Funny how every new comment in favor of wheat belly gets zeroed out immediately. It was happening when it first broke yesterday and continues today. Looks like someone does not like being called out. 🙂



Toby, you cannot back up your statements! I challenge you to try the program for even just two weeks. What have you got to lose? It’s an easy test, which is how I started. I didn’t believe it either and was reluctant to give up my beloved bread. In two months, I lost weight, and all my numbers went down–so much so, that my doctor took me off of cholesterol and diabetes meds! This new approach to eating has been so easy and actually less stressful because I am more aware of what I am consuming and know that it is healthy. Oh, and for traveling? I’m a flight attendant–I travel more than I stay home and I have not had a problem.



Thank you, Toby, for this “interesting” review for without it we, the followers of a wheat-free diet, would not have had the opportunity to refute with empirical and anecdotal evidence your many baseless claims and assertions. Try it for yourself; you’ve nothing to lose except a little time writing a less biased and more accurate review.



Wheat is a toxic poison, an OPIATE on the brain. Toby Amidor is ‘old school’, a ‘flatworlder’! Lose the wheat and lose the weight, once and for all! Rid yourself of other health problems as well. ONLY THE EDUCATED WILL SURVIVE!



Hey, here’s an idea: try it. 30 days won’t kill you, and I’ll bet you won’t even miss those ‘nutrients’ you cling to with your outdated nutritional ideas. Show me just one piece of research, just one scientific study, that establishes that you NEED grains, and especially wheat. Let me save you the time: there isn’t any. All that ‘healthy whole grains’ crap and recommendations to feed infants cereal as their first food is (surprised look) the doctrine of the GRAIN INDUSTRY…check it out, look into the background of the individuals who reside now and in the past, on governmental bodies that determine the ridiculous “RDA”’s and the ludicrous food pyramid (oh sorry, it’s a plate now).



The comments in reply to this misguided review are what speak the truth. Real people reporting their real and positive experiences! The tide is turning and it is about time!!!



I have never eaten as well as I do since eliminating wheat and associated products from my diet. I feel great and full of energy. I have only lost a couple of pounds, but my waist line has reduced by 6″ in 2 months. My body fat percentage has gone from 48% to 30%, and my BMI is now well within the normal range. 


This ‘fad’ diet is so easy to follow, just cut out the wheat – its BAD!!!



My whole family has been on Montignac diet for years and we noticed some benefits ( lack of constant food craving, I also lost some post pregnancy pounds -approx 2-3 stones) ) but still had various health issues which couldn`t be tackled by Montignac approach. 

I still had some extra weight and a `wheat belly` which didn`t want to leave me despite all the healthy eating ( organic, wholefood, low& medium carbs, food combination, no refined foods, no sugar etc etc) exercises and all the effort I have been making to loose it. 

A few months ago we discovered Wheat Belly way of living ( as this is NOT a diet). 

We excluded wheat totally, most of other cereals and what a difference! Slimmer waist for me! I finally started loosing some weight again. 

Better health ( more energy) and that`s also the case with all the other members of my family ( all 8 of us). As much as my husband and children didn`t have weight problem, previously, 

there were other areas which improved after dumping organic `healthy wholegrain wheat` 

Skin condition and digestive problems to begin with. 

NO ONE will persuade me that we need wheat. Why would I go back, huh?



When I gave up wheat, I not only lost weight, I gave up adult acne, asthma, and chronic allergies. Don’t knock this way of eating until you try it. You won’t be sorry.



I would advise everyone to try cutting out wheat for just one month and see how you feel. I have never felt healthier since giving up grains and I have cured myself of the GURD that I was told I would need to continue to take tablets for life to combat. This article is wrong on so many levels.



On my own, i stopped eating wheat for one week in march because i suspected it was the cause of my terrible stomach pains. i had never heard of nor read “wheat belly.” the result? no more stomach pain. then i was happy to find so many gluten-free products at the supermarket and stocked up on GF pasta, pancake mix, bread, pretzels, cookies, crackers. no problem – even national pizza chains are offering gf pizza. life was good. 


about 2 months ago read “wheat belly”, and realized i needed to stop eating all the GF stuff i had stocked up on. after i stopped, i discovered i no longer had carb cravings and seemingly insatiable hunger. after eating one plateful of GF food i was full, i was satiated, and i no longer snacked between meals and all evening. what i also found was i had more energy than i’d had in a long, long time. oh, and although i haven’t stepped on a scale recently, winter pants and shirts i haven’t worn in 3-4 years are fitting a little loose these days as i pull them from storage. 


a shrinking belly and body, and feeling better – that’s all the evidence i need. nutritionists, dieticians, food experts, doctors and advertisers can yell and scream at me all they want about “healthy whole grains” being part of a “balanced” diet. that’s old news that wasn’t even true to begin with. i will never eat wheat again. you can’t call it healthy if it makes me feel awful.



Giving up wheat and sugar has done nothing but good things for me! I have more energy, about 80% less headaches, no more adult acne, and I lost 25 pounds. It was honestly difficult for the first week, but after that, not tough at all. I highly recommend it! 

And, as another commenter said, it is not a diet, it’s a new way to eat. It’s not simply to lose weight, it’s to gain quality of life. 

I’m sorry it seems unrealistic to you.



If I had continued to eat the wheat/gluten diet, I would be dead now. When I gave it up in 2008, I shredded at least 25 negative side effects from it, the worst of which was severe brain fog and depression. I couldn’t hold down a job. I’ve been working ever since with no down days ever! And that was before Dr Davis wrote Wheat Belly.



I have been wheat free for almost 3 months..aside from being down 16pounds, i feel amazing! No migraines at all in the last three months! I have travelled with my husband and two kids this summer, over 9 hours in a car, and I didnt eat one thing with wheat in it, and would u guess i also ate at restaurants!!!!! Most restaurants are willing to accomadate your meal as best they can for you! i found a diner that made me a wicked omlet filled with canadian bacon, cheese, onions, mushrooms green peppers for breakfast and i was full until supper that night! I have also tried eating wheat foods over the last three months just to see what would happen….lesson learned ill tell ya that much, headaches, sick stomach etc…i am proud to be wheat free!!!! Like others have posted just try it for 2 weeks and see!!!



I can’t believe how my appetite has decreased since going off wheat-well worth the cost of throwing out the foods containing it in my cupboard. It is NOT impossible to travel or eat out with this change of diet, contrary to what the author states. It simply requires you to be conscious and aware and to make better choices. Something Americans don’t excel at!



Sorry, but wheat has no place in *my* “healthy eating plan.” I went off it entirely for a 2-week trial period and never went back. My Hashimoto’s is currently not an issue, to the point where I’m off my thyroid meds and still not gaining weight; my skin is clearer than it’s been in years; my chronic joint pain that wouldn’t respond to PT or acupuncture or strong meds is GONE. When I accidentally get “glutened,” I can feel my thyroid pressing on my throat within 20 minutes; took me a while to work out the cause. And when I eat legumes, including soy, I end up with awful digestive issues. The only dairy I consume is cultured (I make a gallon of yogurt a week mostly for the kids but I have a little as well) and unpasteurized milk from time to time (can’t get it where I live, but we can where the grandparents live. :-)) 



There really is very little nutrition in any grains, and the protein in legumes or in legume/grain combinations comes with far too many empty calories relative to meat or eggs. Micronutrients, vitamins, minerals – they’re all far far more abundant in vegetables than in grains or legumes, with the possible exception of iron – which can be found in leafy greens and eggs and meat anyway. When you have to “enrich” flour to make bread or cereal with any vitamin content whatsoever, you may as well avoid the grains entirely and just take a vitamin – if you still need one after meals loaded with nutrient-dense REAL food. 


Thanks, but no thanks on the grains or the legumes.



Never in my entire life have I felt better, looked better or have been able to KEEP THE POUNDS OFF as I have on this Wheat Belly way of eating. I have metabolic syndrome and simply cannot take to eating high-carb foods like whole wheat anything, potatoes, processed corn products or rice. I didn’t know that in the past and suffered through constantly weight gain, bloating, acid reflux (low stomach acid wrecks havoc when eating grains), high triglycerides and low HDL. Been eating this way for almost a year and I can’t ever see why I would go back to eating grains, refined carbs and sugar.



Really !! You just don’t have clue, did you actually read the book or just find cliff notes on it. I know its hard to understand how wheat can destroy one’s eating habits but how do you explain people with cialics disease and the havoc wreaked by wheat products and processed foods. Try the diet before you state its unrealistic to follow.



I have given up wheat as well – this has also caused me to give up my steroidal asthma inhaler and my nasal allergy spray because I no longer have asthma or season allergies. It is sad that you as a healthy eating “professional” still believe in all the hype from big food corporations. Do your own research.



I lost over 30 lbs giving up wheat, gluten, whatever you want to call it, and dairy too for awhile. Eat real food not processed crap: educate yourselves. Thumbs up Dr. Davis!



Followed this plan since book came out, lost 35 pounds, GI problems gone, energy way up, husband lost 40, daughter lost 30 and stopped going to ER with her own GI issues. I don’t have to work out as hard as I did. Easy and never going back. Thanks Dr. Davis!



I have been virtually wheat -free for well over a decade. Have no problems dining out or staying wheat-free while travelling. I also have been intermittent fasting for two years. I get comprehensive blood work done annually and am as healthy as can be. I would say if this type of diet were detrimental to my healthy, surely after 10 years there would some proof in my bloodwork. As far as sweets go, once your eliminate not only wheat but carbs in general you get off the blood sugar rollercoaster. With stable blood sugar, the desire for sweets significantly decreases. There is no shortage of healthy wheat-free, gluten-free, sugar-free, low-carb treats to be found on the internet. In fact, I have my own site with lots of yummy recipes. ❤ Vanessa



It’s not impossible to follow this plan when eating out! Just open your mouth and be proactive. No thank you on the bread, please skip the fries and double up on the veggies on the side. What’s so hard about that? If you’re a meely-mouthed person who can’t speak up, then yeah, you’re going to have a challenge avoiding those pastas and breads and all those carbs that make you fat.



The author of this article obviously wants to hold onto old dogma and didn’t take any time to figure this stuff out for herself. The list of “not so good” items is totally false. Our dietitians consistently get people off wheat as a first step toward better nutrition and the results are almost always impressive. Dr. Davis provided us with a great written interview which you can see here: 

Toby, please do your homework. Whole grains have never been shown to be “healthy,” only healthier than highly processed grains. Going cold turkey DOES work for people, especially if they’re addicted to something. It’s very easy to follow the plan while dining out. Virtually every restaurant has gluten-free and low-carb offerings. And fasting…well, plenty of research shows it’s quite safe and beneficial.



It’s simple- try it for a week or so, and see how you feel. I noticed a difference right away. Less bloating, no more stomach upset, more energy. This is not a starvation diet, and there are other grains to choose from, so how can it be unhealthy?



I suggest you try giving up wheat before writing the nonsense you have in the selfish interest of stimulating interest in your own blog. Giving up wheat is not going cold turkey, it is liberating! And if you want to know the truth, resisting freshly baked bread is still absolute confirmation that we grow up being addicted to wheat! We are eating ourselves to death, this is probably the most realistic and achievable eating adjustment we could all make.



You are wrong on so many points. I had been following your “healthy” whole-grain included, low carb, low fat and no sugar diet, carefully tracking calories and every bite of food I ate – all to ward off the onset of Type II diabetes – for eight months. I was only 12 pounds over my ideal weight, but couldn’t lose it. I felt bloated, had problems with constipation, my joints ached, had headaches 2-3 times a week, had trouble concentrating, tired all the time. Then I got the Wheat Belly book (which I downloaded to my iPad from Amazon for only $9.99, NOT the $26 you quote in your article), and went on the diet 2 months ago. I immediately lost the extra weight and bloating, feel great, consistent high energy, no aching joints or headaches, no constipation, not hungry all the time – and no longer have to count calories. I know the grain lobby is big, and is feeling the impact of all the people who are waking up to the lie of “healthy” whole grains. And I’m willing to bet that if you follow the money, it’ll lead to the doors of a whole bunch of “nutritional experts” who benefit from judicious investments from that lobby. But that’s just speculation on my part. What I KNOW is that I feel 100% better without the wheat, so why would I listen to anybody telling me that I need to add that poison back to my diet? No thanks!



The author of this article obviously did not even read the book he pretends to critique, making wild unfounded claims (already pointed out above) and has lost ALL credibility with me. Fact: the wheat in this country is NOT the same wholesome grain it was in 1950, the enormous gluten content is wreaking havoc on not only our intestinal system, but our immune system and nervous systems, all virtually silently, leaving most of the population feeling sluggish, susceptible to ever virus around, and definitely a lower quality of life and shortened lifespan. Since going on a wheat free trial 2 years ago (after reading Peter D’Adamo’s “Eat Right for Your Type”) I had my migraines disappear, chronic fatigue melted away and so did 45 stubborn pounds. I feel younger and more alive than ever, and there is no doubt it was the wheat keeping me from losing weight, and making me feel ‘old’ sick, and tired all the time!



I grind my own wheat and make my own bread. I also eat a lot of other grains. I tried to eliminate grains and became depressed and tired. I think there are a lot of people out there who cannot tolerate grains and they didn’t know it until they tried this diet. Everyone is different. One thing I am sure of, however, the big agriculture and food processors don’t give a rat’s ass about our health. It’s money for them if we are addicted to nutritionally devoid crap that makes us sick. Processed foods are not good for anyone. I’ve given up sugar, fast food and anything processed. I’ve lost 62 pounds and feel wonderful.



The truth about Julie Jones, so called expert who is referenced above. She is clearly in the pocket of the big grain companies. 



I am quite surprised by your article, and I presume you have not given the diet a try. I am a fan of Dr. Davis and have followed the Wheat Belly way of eating for jjust over a year. I feel great. I love this diet, and I do follow it without difficulty when I travel or dine out. For breakfast I have eggs and cheese, or eggs and sausage with a small amount of fruit,or sauteed spinach, or slices of tomato, coffee. For lunch I have meat or fish ( no bread ) with a salad and cooked nonstarchy vegetable.. and the same for dinner with a nice glass of red wine. I What is so hard about that? Restaurants are almost always willing to substitute. I never eat bread or potato or pasta or rice, but ask for a green vegetable instead. I don’t use sugar at all. I pack almonds if I need a snack. I lost ten pounds and my weight is good ( 122 at 5’5″), my A1C dropped into the normal range from the prediabetic range. Long standing IBS is gone, as is reflux. ( was on Nexium for 4 years… not on any drug now )… I urge you to rethink your opinion about this diet.!!




This article is a complete FAIL. Wheat Belly changed my life along with all the other people commenting on here!



My first instinct was to get angry at the author because of his very inaccurate information. But then, I actually felt sorry for him. I think it is safe to say, that at one point, many of us possibly would have believed the same as him. We have all been fed this false information of “healthy whole grains”, and unfortunately many people still blindly follow that school of thought. I challenge and encourage non-believers to do some research. Educate yourselves. Think for yourselves. It’s sad that so many doctors and nutritionists fail to read the newer research. They, too, continue to follow the old school ways and thoughts. I have yet to read Dr. Davis book, but my own research seems to concur with his thoughts and research. I have gone wheat and grain free. I feel so much better than I have in years. My fibromyalgia is essentially gone. Bloating, gone. Migraines, gone. Excess weight, steadily losing. Energy, extreme! I sleep soundly. I look forward to each day. Depression, gone. What have you got to lose? Try it for a few weeks, I think many non-believers will change their minds or at least see the light.



I quit all grains and sugars four months ago as well as all seed based oils. I am losing weight, never feel hungry, am energetic, and all of my old age aches and pains are GONE. This is an easy lifestyle to follow. I sure don’t want togo back to the miseries I used to feel.



I lost about 20 lbs in about a month when I started this, and it has STAYED off. It now amuses me to see people snacking due to cravings, and I just cruise through it. A BIG bonus, after suffering from acid reflux, and downing baking soda at night for years…IT WENT AWAY! Completely gone after about 3 to 5 days on the program. This diet was recommended by my doctor, and I would have thought it crazy except for his recommendation. This diet is the real deal! Another fringe benny – my face looks more taut, less puffy, and I think a few years younger. Not that I am superficial ore anything…



I am not sure if you read the same book that I read, but The Wheat Belly Diet book that I read has changed my life. I have lost 30+ pounds since July 2012. I couldn’t exercise because of severe arthritis in both knees and I was just tired ALL THE TIME. I travel at least 48 weeks a year. I needed something simple and available. I didn’t want to pack and haul kitchenware and a reference book. I read this book over a weekend and was able to start the diet immediately. In two weeks, the pain and stiffness of the arthritis disappeared. I now have more than enough energy to exercise everyday even after working on my feet for 10-12 hours. My doctor has taken me off of a couple of BP medications because the numbers (including cholestorol) are coming down. The best thing about this diet is I feel great! I am not aware of the fasting that you mentioned, but I do know that I don’t get hungry and am not compelled to eat a meal just because it is a certain time of day. If I am hungry, I eat, even at a restaraunt. I have been able to find the food I need everywhere. I hope you try the diet or at least reread the book. I can’t say enough good things about it.


I eat out daily …. sorry … the claim that eating out is tough, just isnt true. And should not be used as an excuse.



My husband and I have been on Wheat Belly way of eating for about a month. We have lost weight, my husband, who has had belly cramps after eating all his life, now can eat without gas, bloating, or diarrhea. Our blood work looks better, we both feel better, and we notice in the way we feel when something that has wheat in it sneaks its way into our food. Who are YOU to say it doesn’t work, when you have obviously not tried this way of living? Don’t bash something just because you have been brainwashed by Big AG to think that we need wheat in our diet. Swing and a miss, pal.



Four months ago I was living the bloated, puffy life (puffy face, bloated belly) convinced that I would never be able to find a way back to looking healthy after menopause 10 yrs ago. My Naturopath finally convinced me to TRY wheat/gluten free to regulate my thyroid and to lower my inflammation issues. (I can’t tell you how sketical I was…the author here sounds just like me a few months ago… and it’s obvious she has not tried this by her comments.) Within 2 weeks my cravings were gone; @ 2 months I felt energetic and had no inflammation. Within 4 months I had lost 26 lbs! My body shape (without exercising) has completely been transformed…I have a waist, no bloated belly and I can’t stop looking at the young girl in the mirror. I will never go back to eating or looking like that again! Registered Dieticians, please be OPEN to hearing our testimonies to help patients like me!



I am so blessed to have read these comments. And they are certainly necessary after the writer’s review of Wheat Belly. Bottom line…we can thrive quite happily eating REAL foods that our body was designed to handle. That means follow the Do’s list and avoid the Don’t’s. There is a whole lotta freedom to move around in that Do list. Just have to change your mind set and accept the amazing results 🙂



For the fun of it, let’s calculate the number of pounds lost following the Wheat Belly way JUST IN TODAY’s RESPONSES. Grain free and sugar free is *the answer* to the obesity epidemic plaguing Americans. 

I, for one, am pretty ticked off at the 15+ years I’ve lost being overweight, no matter WHAT I did b/c I blindly ate my *healthy wholegrains* and ridiculously low fat diet. Ugh! 

Down 26lbs, at a healthy 138lbs/5’7″, 3# short of my wedding weight AND am going through menopause. Hah! 

I’m building muscle and feel like a teen again. I am NOT GOING BACK!



Following the guidelines in Wheat Belly was my first step in finally budging the last few stubborn pounds of baby weight (as well as eradicating the joint pain I developed after having my baby). I feel great following the “diet” (I don’t see it as a diet, but a way of life). There have been a couple of times I have eaten wheat since starting the “diet”, and I immediately regretted it. I felt sluggish, had brain fog, my endometriosis pain immediately flared up, and my joints ached once again. I will admit, I have tweaked the diet a bit, as I don’t like to consume artificial sweeteners like Splenda, etc. (ingredients present in some of Dr. Davis’ recipes), and I don’t eat dairy or red meat, but dropping the wheat has made a major difference in how I feel and look.



Your assessment could not be more off base. Where do I even start? First off, dining out is far from impossible. Maybe if your dining out experience consists of restaurants with a drive-thru then it may be challenging. We travel & eat out often & I am never without options & have never gone hungry because of my choice to go grain-free. Second, no one recommends going without food for weeks at a time. That’s ridiculous. Third, going cold turkey is how you have to break the tie with addictive substances- and oh yeah, wheat is addictive. Why else would people experience a withdrawal period anyway? Obviously the stuff is bad news. No one talks about going cold turkey from green beans or chicken. Fourth, throwing out all the wheat products in my pantry does not cost me anything. Now that I know better, that crap shouldn’t even be considered food in the first place. And it’s an investment in my health. Fifth, of course what is in this book is controversial. Dr. Davis is not bought off by the big agri-business or pharmaceutical companies, unlike the government & the better part of the medical community. Their research is consistently flawed & shamelessly biased. And finally, this way of eating is far from unsustainable. Thousands of us who have done it realize that going back to the way of eating that the traditional medical community & the government would prescribe would send us back to being tired, sluggish, overweight, plagued with cravings, sick & in chronic pain. Hopefully more people will read the comments section as opposed to buying into the ignorance that you have published here.



Everyone I know, who has tried the Wheat Belly program, has benefited from it.



I’ve been wheat free for 2 years. I’ve lost 90 pounds. I’ve regained my health. I will never go back.



I ate a muffin today!!!! and it was scrumptious lol but seriously the lifestyle clearly works … just hard to follow 

But im going to try my best 🙂



This article is laughable its sad.



CCutting out foods that cause insulin spikes and are known to increase inflammation seems to be a no brained. I lives 40+ years as a biscuit -loving carboholic, but reading the research cited in Wheatbelly was enough to make me walk away from the biscuits. Of particular interest is the research that links the wheat protein Gliaden to migranes and depression, as this protein actually crosses the blood-brain barrier causes inflammatory damage to the brain itself. That sealed the deal for me. I have given up wheat… Off it since May, so over 5 months now. Occasionally I get MSG mono-sodium-GLUTENate slipping in, or wheat in sauces prepared by others. I always have a return of symptoms. Its so not worth it.



I agree with everyone’s comments. I finally convinced my entire family to go wheat/gluten free in January and we have all experienced at least some weight loss. But everyone can tell you about the disappearance of eczema, migraines, joint pain, acid reflux and more. We cook together, grocery shop together, started a FB page to share health information and really feel like this is the best decision we have ever made.



Our family went completely wheat free and it’s been life changing for us. Many of our long term symptoms have just disappeared. It’s amazing how much more energy we all have since we removed wheat (and all grains) from our diet. I think this person must work for the wheat companies. We eliminated all grains and have never looked back, eating a caveman diet has been life changing for us. We’ll never eat wheat again! Once you take away grains, health is returned, it’s an amazing way to live, so much energy again!



Wow, talk about old school thinking! We’ve been wheat free for almost a year now and haven’t even thought about going back. I spent almost 5 decades obese, eating the way the so called “experts” kept telling me. In less than a year I’ve dropped 65 lbs and haven’t had any cravings. I tend to eat 2 meals a day with sometimes a snack of nuts. For the first time in my life I have energy! I feel great and can keep up with my grand kids. No way would I consider ever eating wheat again. As for the rest of the so called issues of this lifestyle the author claims, they are plain and simply false. Thanks Dr. Davis for your hard work and research! You’ve made a huge difference in my life! Kim



I eliminated wheat from my diet in June this year, even before I read the book. I was in so much pain and the IBS was so bad I had nothing to lose. Within 2 days of changing my diet the IBS was gone (and has never come back) as well as my arthritic pain in my knees, hips and back. The edema in my arm which has had the lymph nodes removed has disappeared completely, and therefore the neuropathic pain as well. Nothing will tempt me to eat wheat again……. ever!




You are crazy or you will be – just keep eating wheat! Wheat is not good for you nor are junk carbs. I lost 73 pounds previously doing low carb and gained them back quickly eating wheat. I also experienced all over pain, swelling, inflammation, mood problems, foggy brain and severe sleep apnea. I went off wheat and started feeling better immediately.



I don’t skip grains because I want or need to lose weight, I eat this way because the quality of American GMO grains is sickening. I did lose some weight and my osteoarthritis pain in my hip is gone! Also more energy and no more bloating. Thanks, keep your grain!


Getting off wheat while going low carb/high fat made my cravings go away. Made 50+ ponds melt away. Made my depression go away and took my anxiety with it. My digestive issues gone. My dry skin gone. My knee pain gone. I wake up rested every morning. Just to name a few major things. 

When I get “wheated” the digestive issuses and knee pain comes back. I don´t doubt I would be a fat, painridden, constantly tired, miserable, hungry and farting lady again in no time if I started eating “everything in moderation” again.


Have been wheat free since the end of April. I suspected Celiac or gluten intolerance. Dr. said no Celiac. I stuck to the “diet” and have only had two painful “stomach attacks” since. I have lost inches in my waist, I am not fatigued all the time, my stomach doesn’t hurt every time I eat, and have not had a migraine in a very long time! I started a new job at an elementary school in August and have been dreading catching the stomach virus from the little ones. I have not been sick yet, and I can only attribute that to being wheat free because I have ALWAYS caught everything that goes around. I have not completely given up sugar, but I have cut way back. Toby, you can borrow my book to ACTUALLY READ if you like.


My comment to people who say it is not good for you “is to try it.” It doesn’t cost anything to give up wheat for a month, and if you don’ feel better, or your blood sugar doesn’t go down, or you don’t lose some around your waist then don’t do it. For the first time in my life I feel in control of my eating. Every other time I have lost weight, I worried about how I was going to keep in off. Now it is not a factor. And you have to remember. You are giving up wheat, not pizza and bread. There are recipes!!.


the Wheat Belly “fad diet” changed my life. Wheat free for 8 weeks, I am off RA drugs, drugs that compromise the immune system !!!! My general practitioner is amazed and has now gone wheat free herself. Joints that were swollen, red and inflamed for two years are now back to regular size, and cool to the touch. The completely dibilitating fatigue…GONE, Brain fog…GONE, Sleepless nights…GONE! Depression….GONE….WHEAT GONE…poison to my system. The truth is in the results!!! I thank God for Dr. Davis.



I’d love to know–is this author an imbecile, a corporate whore, or both?










The comments section tells the real story. I’ve been wheat-free for a year, cooking gourmet meals and losing weight. Thank you Dr Davis.



I eliminated wheat and grain about 3 months ago. I feel much better, skin clearer, and great reduction in body aches, acid reflux, and migraines. I suspect when I cut sugar (am doing this one substance at a time!) I will be feeilng even better. I dont’ find it hard to follow at all. There are some good bread substitute recipes (I really like the flax seed wrap!) and I honestly don’t miss wheat. I have had a couple of ‘cheats’ (birthday cake on my birthday) and boy did I pay! It is very self-reinforcing to cut out wheat when you realize how good you feel. I agree with those who say, ‘try it’ – see for yourself!


CONFLICT OF INTEREST ALERT: The author of the “in-depth analysis” that refutes Wheat Belly, Dr. Julie Jones, is a paid consultant of processed food manufacturers. In contrast, Dr. Davis is a cardiologist who actually treats sick patients. Consider the sources.



What a terrible review of the Wheat Belly program. First of all, it’s about being healthy; the weight loss is a bonus. My pre-diabetes is gone. My blood pressure is lower. My aches and pains don’t exist. I sleep well and I feel good. And ALL I did was give up wheat; I haven’t even given up sugar yet. I’ve lost about 10 pounds and 3 inches off my belly. My Mom gave up wheat for 2 weeks and has already reduced the amount of insulin she injects. It’s the easiest thing in the world. Really, know what your talking about before posting such an uninformed review.



I have been wheatless for 10 weeks – I am never hungry between meals, have lost 10% of my body weight, and the pain I have had in my ffingers or hips for years is gone. II am actually eating much more variety of food noww- trying new things from the great recipes on the wheatbellyblog website that I never would have tried before. 


Can’t wait until the cookbook comes on December 24!



Have you heard of the Paleo diet that is growing in popularity with people who have sensitivity to wheat/gluten and usually dairy sensitivity as well? This diet is very similar to Paleo. I’m wondering how all of these people find their diet to be impossible to follow. Yes, it takes some planning and thought, but I think that’s what many people are missing in their lives today…planning and thought. Hence, they go to the drive-thru or grab processed foods and they gain weight. “Healthy whole grains,” may have been a reality before the were genetically modified, but they are not healthy anymore. Maybe you should try the diet for 30 days, keep a daily diary of how you feel…then let us read that review. I dare ya.



I completely disagree with this article. I’ve tried several diets over the past couple years and couldn’t lose a pound. In 2 months on this program I’ve lost 8 pounds, I’m never hungry, and I’ve lost my cravings…. also, my skin has cleared up and i have more energy.



i had been in constant pain for two weeks so decided i was going to get my juicer out and get healthy, started carrot celery and apple thinking this might help and then read the doctor’s article on wheat the perfect toxic poison and it all clicked and i immediately stopped all wheat (and most processed things because you don’t know what all is in them. i wasn’t exceptionall about giving up the carbs still ate corn tortillas or rice but the pain disappearred and i have started telling everyone about that and the other benefits: i wake up and i’m awake regardless if i had coffee the previous morning or not, the insides of my ears don’t itch, i feel less pouffy, have more energy, less stuffy headed for no reason (meaning absent a cold or flu), better mood. less painful period, loss of 5 pounds in a bit over two weeks. so you tell me if it seems worth it to give it a try???



After being wheat free for 4 months, I have lost 26 lbs, feel so much better, LOOK so much better and I have no desire to snack anymore…I actually look forward to trying new ways to prepare food withour flour..or bread or cereals!! I can now fit into so many old clothers that I have kept, just hoping I could some day fit into!! Eating wheat is such a very small part of our lives, really…there are so many other wonderful foods to try, but I was addicted to that nasty carb and I only thought of eating it when I got every hour or may sound strange but when you try it for at least 1 month, you will be convinced that you don’t miss it at all!



My A1c went from 9.9 to 5.3. I have lost 42 pounds. No diabetes meds. Eating out is easy! Feel wonderful and lots of energy. No cravings and smaller amounts of food satisfying. If you fast it is because you aren’t hungry. It does not encourage weeks of fasting. I am a nurse and very happy that I have found the way out of so called “healthy whole grains” that I believe were killing me.



When I was eating wheat I was HUNGRY ALL THE TIME! I ate almost non stop. And as fast as it went in, it came out. I just chocked it up to a fast metabolism. Little did I know that this was my body’s way of purging this poison out of my system. Now 2 years since being diagnosed with Celiac disease, I’m pretty much grain free. And now I have problems losing weight due to possible hormone disruption, damage that was done by a lifetime of eating wheat. Whole wheat was a lot worse for me due to the extra gluten protein it contains. I didn’t have any problems until I started consuming “lots of healthy whole grains” as per the USDA food pyramid. I can’t stand it when I see/hear people say that going grain free is unhealthy. I suggest doing a little research before making these claims. And although I don’t go out to eat often, eating out and traveling is NOT impossible. I just have to be extra careful than most because having Celiac I can’t consume ANY gluten whatsoever.



Removing wheat from your diet can lead to significant and terrible side effects. I’ve been off wheat for around four months and “suffered” from an increase in nergy, significant reduction in visceral body fat, and better mental focus, just to mention a few. Why in the world would anyone else remove wheat from their diet?



Well, its the season of fact checking so here goes!



Well, it’s the season of fact checking so here goes! 

You refer to this book as being promoted on the “popular diet book” table. Isn’t The Wheat Belly a popular diet book, albeit so much more? 


“it’s no longer called a “beer belly” but rather “wheat belly”” – What is most all beer made from again? 

“starchy veggies, whole grains, legumes, dried fruit, corn starch and corn meal” – Most all healthy eating plans limit or cut out high carb, high starch, high sugar, high corn foods. Why is this bad? 

Three meals a day are encouraged without any snacks. Isn’t this what we’ve done for years? Though you say his previous paragraphs are wrong, you don’t say why or give better examples.


“Veggies (except potatoes and corn)” – um… corn isn’t a vegetable, it’s a grain… 

“Fasting, defined as drinking water only, is highly recommended for several days or even weeks at a time.” – Fasting is recommended for limited timeframes if you plateau. 

“with its grotesque weight loss transformation of bikini-clad women” Which is more grotesque, a red wagon with 30lbs of visceral fat in it or a computer generated cartoon of a woman in weight loss transition. I take it you don’t go to a beach very often as many people there are in the heavier stages of “grotesque-ness” 

“Other costs associated with the diet include the money lost when you toss all your wheat products” – we gave ours away and it would be easy to take those products to a food bank. The $26 I spent was well worth the $800 I’ll save this year on meds. 

“the notion of completely eliminating any sweets or processed goods FOREVER.” – How is this a bat thing? 

“Many healthy foods are eliminated or significantly decreased including whole grains, fruits, and legumes (beans, peas and lentils).” So, your argument is that not eating something is bad for you. 


“variety is also limited or eliminated from the diet.” – Typically, I ate pasta, pizza and breads before I cut wheat. Now I eat many more foods than I ever ate. This is not usually considered limiting variety. 


“It is virtually impossible to follow this plan while traveling or dining out.” – patently untrue. Also, eating out is about 4x the cost of the food. People who complain about healthy food being too expensive shouldn’t eat out either. 


“Going cold turkey isn’t an effective way to teach someone good habits. Many folks will stop this diet just as quickly as they started it.” – Tell that to the guy who quit smoking or who was told after a heart attack to change his lifestyle. 


“This diet is just plain unrealistic and unhealthy. Every food (even wheat) can have a place in your healthy eating plan.” – Every food cannot be a part of a healthy eating plan. That just sounds ridiculous. Twinkies, Stuffed crust meat lovers pizza, double stuffed Oreos are not a part of any healthy eating plan. Those things are typically listed under the “exceptions” category. 

“Have you tried the Wheat Belly Diet? Why yes, I have! Thank you for asking! Although I’ve lost 15 pounds, I’ve seen greater results in other areas. I’m saving money on allergy pills, ADD and anxiety pills, aspirin and sleeping pills. My asthma is better and my skin is more clear and itches less. I have less reflux and my digestion is much better than before. I also eat about half of what I did before so I’m spending a little more on good food and less overall. 

If not eating something helps with all of these things, then it’s worth it. It’s also helped the rest of our family of five.



You are incorrect….I have lost 15 lbs. in 2 months, and the best is, I no longer have IBS. I feel better than I have in years! You really need to do more research on this. Wheat today is not what it used to be!



I’m new to the Wheat Belly way of life (5 weeks) I have gotten rid of all grains, and I have never eaten any prepacked gluten free garbage. The biggest eye opener to me was how wheat is added/hidden in virtually everything these days. So I stick to one ingredient whole foods and I have not felt this well in decades! As a child of the 60’s I was fortunate to have grandparents close where we would get fresh cream, hand churned butter, raspberries and blackberries picked fresh, acres of gardens of fresh veggies not to mention the meat that was unadulterated. So now I practically feel ashamed that I like scores of the population has been fooled with the healthy whole grains low fat nonsense and virtually led to the slaughter by Big Business to the point where we are killing ourselves and our children with this crap! We need to go back to our roots and eat local, fresh food. You madam are only adding to the problem in this country, why not turn around and be a part of the solution? Oh that’s right you work for them! Silly me. You and your ilk are on the way out though as more and more people get informed and take charge of their own health and well being. After 5 weeks of no grains I have lost weight and no more IBS, I have energy and feel focused. I no longer feel hopeless. I will never go back to wheat. Thank you Dr Davis for being a part of the solution to the epidemic in this country!



Unfortunately, there will be many folks who will read this unsubstantiated drivel and believe every word without doing their own homework and reading Wheat Belly and following Dr. Davis’ blog in which real people describe their own experiences of healing. 


I’m almost one year wheat and grain free and feel wonderful for my 63 years. My acid reflux disappeared within days of eliminating wheat and I will NEVER go back to eating it. It’s too bad that so many processed foods contain wheat; so, instead of spending hours in the grocery trying to read every label, I just shop the perimeter of the store and find all the wonderful vegetables and proteins and have found so much variety there I don’t need anything packaged with crap ingredients. Oh yes, I also dropped 20+ pounds with no effort.



I have not even read this book, but for three years I have been choosing to eat a very similar dietary profile. Lost and kept off 30 lbs., eliminated hot flashes, severe joint pain, and frequent headaches. My HDL is above 90 and my triglycerides below 30 amd my blood pressure runs about 110 over 65. I eat out frequently and know how to order foods I enjoy and meet my dietary needs. I never have food craving or overeat and I LOVE the taste of the foods I do eat. At 55 I am more healthy and active than I have been in 20 years. Eliminating most grains and sugar and increasing the amount of natural fats in my diet has been the best life change I have ever made! 




I gave up wheat in may of 2011 and since then have lost 40 pounds. Keeping it off has been effortless. I no longer have GERD and my arthritis is gone too. The author of this article complains that this is a one-phase plan where you never get to reintoduce the foods you gave up. I ask, “why would I want to regain 40 pounds, suffer joint pain and heartburn every day, and go back to feeling old and tired?” I love being wheat free.



Why would this diet be unhealthy? What if you have celiacs disease and can’t eat wheat?



We have been grain free for over a year since reading Wheatbelly. Easiest life change we have ever made and as for. It being able to follow this plan while travelling we spent one month in Italy and cruising and it was easy to stay wheat free. We even lost more weight while away!! Try that on a standard diet. 


Every health marker we have had done is vastly improved since going wheat free.



“Fasting, defined as drinking water only, is highly recommended for several days or even weeks at a time.” 

I challenge Ms. Amidor to cite chapter and verse—literally the page—from the book that she has apparently not read to substantiate this claim. But of course she won’t because she can’t. It is misrepresentation of the worst kind—whether wilful ignorance, just plain ignorance, sloppiness, laziness or wishful thinking—it is unforgiveable and irresponsible intellectual and academic dishonesty from someone with a podium who should be more diligent. But it’s the type of bunk and guff we’ve come to expect from the “dietitian” and “nutritionist” crowd who can recite their ideological book learnin’ by rote in support of conventional wisdom, agribusiness and Big Pharma.



Wheat Belly has saved my health. Went completely wheat free 2 weeks ago and already lost 7lbs. The bloating is gone, the acid reflux is gone, the pain in my belly is gone, my energy level is REDICULOUS, I eat less food because my body doesn’t seem to need it. I don’t have hypoglycemic like crashes anymore. I never feel like I need a nap in the afternoon now.I love not worrying about eating low fat foods. The proof is in the pudding for any of you skeptics……try it, it’s a cheap experiment. And it’s easy to find things on any menu that you can eat. Just about every restaurant sells salads, veggies, eggs, meat, poultry, fish, even most fast food restaurants do…….I will never knowingly put that ‘thing’ they call wheat in my body again and I don’t mind one bit 🙂



Dumb comments from Foodnetwork – bashing diets that work and calling art “grotesque” after some of the shows you have on indicates some lack of intelligence! 


Likely funded by the misinformed “big food” … this works, it’s about cutting out the mutated wheat being foisted on us… beyond that, do what you want with the “diet.”



I am wheat-free and I travel all the time-no problem. This is not a diet-this is a lifestyle.



I also have given up wheat for about two months…no more aches in my fingers or lower back….so easy to eat this way! Recommend the book DANGEROUS GRAINS written by another physician who takes even a harder and more grim look at wheat than Dr. Davis . No more heartburn, either! The writer of the above article is ridiculous. My husband is a cardiovascular surgeon and he also has been without wheat for two months. In the first 10 days he lost 7 pounds in his stomach! And it is still gone…he is reading the book Dangerous Grains, and finds it all very fascinating.Way to go, Dr. Davis!



Read the book in February. Went grain and sugar free (didn’t just stop eating wheat but also oats, rice and corn). Husband and I are in our early 60’s and have never felt better, stronger, more emotionally stable or more energetic in our entire lives. Between us we’ve lost 95 lbs in less than 1 year. Dr. Davis’ book was the catalyst for us to do a lot more research into low carb nutrition. It’s been super easy for us because the motivation of feeling so much better so quickly resulted in the conviction that this was a lifelong change for us. Prediabetes also gone for me, chronic joint and back pain gone, skin conditions completely cleared up. I say ‘Give it a sincere effort for 30 days. What have you got to lose?” It isn’t something that will work for you by just cutting back the amount of grains/wheat. You do have to go ‘cold turkey’ if you want to enjoy the benefits.



What a terrible, poorly researched article. 

Did you actually speak to anyone who was doing the Wheat Belly program? 

My whole family has been doing it for 6 months now. 

It’s not a diet, it’s a way of life that has changed all our health for the better. 

I just had bloods done and my DR was astounded. She stated she’d never seen better blood results 🙂 

Also, where on earth did you get the idea that fasting was recommended? 

Again, just proves how bad your research was. 

Sad thing is someone might listen to you and not read Wheat Belly 😦 

Their continuing poor health is on your hands.



Wonderful book, wonderful way to eat! No more diabetes, no more painful legs, no more allergies. I’m loving life — finally plus I have lost 40 lbs without even trying!!!!



The REAL bottom line: your “bottom line” advice is dangerous and unhealthy! This is not a fad diet. Read the book, follow up with checking even some of the references before making such a stupid statement. Not ALL foods are healthy, and for some people, certain “foods” are like poison. Wheat and most grains, for that matter, are not healthy – contrary to conventional advice – because they contain high levels of lectins which prevent human digestive systems from absorbing micro-nutrients.



I’m a lifetimer with weight watchers, my thyroid was destroyed from ‘hashimotis , I’ve lost 10 lbs in the first 6 weeks and never felt better! My husband has lost 15 lbs and never felt better. It works! I haven’t been this weight since 2008. I’m in sales and it’s not that hard to adhere too- granted easier if you don’t have to entertain; but it can be done. You just need to make smart choices!



Yes, every poison can have a place in your eating plan…but it won’t be healthy!



I am following the recommendations of wheat belly. I am not loosing weight because I do not want to or need to. I just feel great, sleep great, have more energy and am mentally healthier. No wheat for me again. I feel so great I can’t imagine going back.



Potatoes & corn are not veggies 

Only healthy oils, I.e. coconut oil, olive oil, etc…do your homework 

The pounds do come off for most. 

I bought my book for under $20. 

We have had many successful trips and dining out experiences since adopting this lifestyle (it is not a diet!) 

“Many folks will stop this diet just as quickly as they started it.” Most people do not stop it because you no longer even want these foods, you certainly do not crave them, and you eat so many delicious foods instead!



Thanks all for your comments and recommendations. I have been low carb for EVER but have not completely given up wheat and breads, pasta, etc. I don’t really gain weight but I don’t lose that extra 15 either. I believe you guys are 100% right! I’m in!! I will give it a try.



I gave up wheat on January 1st, 2012. I lost 32 pounds in 4 months with absolutely no exercise. I make homemade breads, cookies, muffins and pancakes with almond flour and lots of eat eggs, meats, cheese, veggies and small amounts of fruit. My husband has also been wheat free by default (since I’m the cook in the house!) and recently went for his annual physical. A year ago his doctor told him he needed to worry about his cholesterol levels. This year the doctor said, “Whatever you’re doing, keep it up. Your blood work is perfect.” 


So, it’s not hard to do, it’s good for your body, you lose weight and feel better. What part of that is wrong?



It’s working great for me no more bloating and I feel great.




I have been wheat free for 5 days (and free of all grains and sugars for 3 days) after reading the Wheat Belly article in First Magazine, then downloading the book. So far I have lost my cravings (I used to be starving an hour after eating a meal, and always looking for something to munch on), and I noticed that the arthritis pain in my left hand that I have had for years is gone today. I am also down 2 pounds. I am looking forward to experiencing the benefits seen by others such as improved energy and clearer skin.



Obestity is a fairly recent epidemic. My grandmothers had no difficulty maintaining a healthy body weight. Fifty years ago, nutritional information was not transparent nor were there gyms around every corner. Yet people were at normal body weights. Now, we have all the nutritional information available at our fingertips and gyms are around every corner. Despite this, obesity is on the rise. Why? Wheat has changed thanks to the “magic” of genetic modification. We’re eating Frankenfoods and that’s why were sicker and fatter than the generations before us. I gave up wheat in April. I’m down 40 pounds, my allergy symptoms have improved significantly and I no longer have pain in my knees or back. I no longer have cravings for any particular food. In fact, I do not enjoy eating unless I am genuinely physically hungry. I have struggled with weight my entire life and am experiencing control for the first time in 38 years. Don’t buy into what the heavily subsidized wheat industry has been feeding you – whole grains are not healthy!



Man, you are absolutely clueless. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to wheat and gluten. Hope you get a clue one of these days. Never felt better in my life since giving it up and haven’t looked back. Not a diet. It’s a life. Period .



I had been following a vegan diet for a year and a half. I had lost weight and I felt great. In February of this year I read Wheat Belly (nutrition is my passion/hobby). I decided that I would try eliminating wheat only. I am still Vegan and occassionally replace wheat with things like chick pea flour (ie. chick pea flour based pizza) but mostly I just don’t have anything resembling wheat ie. gluten free products ERK! I have to say, It thought I looked okay but when I dropped the weight I dropped the weight. I had been running nearly every day and there was never any change in my weight. As soon as the wheat was eliminated, the weight just fell off. I’m not running any more because I don’t need to. I’m doing shorter, weight based exercises and still maintian my weight UNDER what I’ve only ever dreamed of being.



I have what I like to call ‘wiggle room’. Anyway, the other side effect of eliminating wheat is that a cronic rash I had on my elbows (when I read about this rash in the Wheat Belly book I had an aha moment) disappeared. I didn’t even know it had a name. I don’t eat meat or dairy as I believe we don’t need to eat animals to function and in fact, it is making us sick and now I am convinced that wheat is doing exactly that as well. I’m 44 and my blood pressure is 99/71. My pH levels are very alkaline and I’m in the best health I’ve EVER been. Please don’t disccount something that has worked for so many people until you try it yourself. Do it for a few weeks and see what happens. If you drop wheat for 2 weeks the only thing that will happen is either nothing or you’ll get healthy. That’s worth a try i’d reckon.



We eliminated wheat March 1, and went totally low carb about a month later. I have lost about 30 pounds, my migraines disappeared, ditto the reflux, and my blood pressure normalized all by itself. I feel better, sleep better, breathe better, have more energy, and love my new life. Another thing we just seem to appreciate food more, and eat a lot! If I get the smallest dose of wheat inadvertently, I get sick immediately. It is definitely poison.



Page 199 of the Wheat Belly book has a sidebar that discusses fasting. Dr. Davis included that there as an example of the benefits of being wheat free – once you are wheat free you no longer have the cyclic hunger. The sidebar does not read to me as his endorsing fasting, just a note explaining that fasting is not dangerous. The way Ms. Amidor quotes that line from the sidebar, either she did not understand that Dr. Davis was not including fasting as a required part of following his suggestions, or she is just trying to be inflammatory. Maybe she has Wheat Brain. 


I think Ms. Amidor’s review of this diet is preposterous. But then, she has only the traditional education all registered dietitians receive: grains good, fat bad.



Toby, shame on you for your ignorant statements….are they ignorant or are you so involved in the money side of the poisonous grain industry that you have no conscience and can lead people to genetically modified Frankenstein-wheat that has never been tested for human consumption, like feeding pigs at the trough…!!! For shame…!!! For only one example, does Monsanto ring a bell? How do you sleep well at night? God bless Dr William Davis for his work and for being able to disseminate his knowledge to the masses..!! The general public is certainly getting smarter and healthier with the truth exposed..!!



We gave up wheat and grains 8 months ago. Have no intention of ever going back! Heartburn – gone. Aches and pains – gone. Headaches – gone. Hubby’s sleep apnea – gone. Blood pressure – normal. Moods – normal. Best decision we ever made. This is the healthiest I have ever eaten in my life. Food tastes like it is supposed to, not covered up with a bunch of unhealthy processed stuff and sugars! I suggest the author of this review read the book and give it a try for a month, then lets see what is written.



I’ve been grain-free for 8 months now, lowered my blood pressure significantly and, once I quit eating grains, I quit craving carbs all day. (which delightfully translates to 15 less pounds!) 


One of the biggest changes for me with this way of eating (no refined foods, healthy fats, etc) was not using Food Network as my major recipe source anymore.



Losing 84 pounds, 5 jeans sizes, all joint pain, all medications gone, exercising 5 days a week (mostly swimming with some free weights) all cravings and nagging hunger, better skin, hair teeth. Since changing my lifestyle I can even count the number of ibuprofen on one hand. No more headaches!!!! All this and more since January 30th. Sounds like I got my life back. Just turned 43 and feel better than I did in my early 20’s. . Wheat/grains/gluten has NO place in anyones diet!




Probably the most important thing since removing wheat and grains is that I am no longer addicted to food. I suffered for years with my “eating disorder” only to discover I just needed to quit wheat. I have lost 33 pounds, but even if I never lost a pound the fact that I am no longer obsessed with food makes it all worth it!



Most of what I think and feel has already been said by my fellow wheat belly converts, so what I will add is this: IF the information in Wheat Belly is true, we are nothing more than a fat society of lab rats from an experiment with wheat that has gone wrong. This fat lab rat is sick of this game and I choose to get off this merry-go-round. If you want to stay on it, go ahead and keep eating wheat, but, I think one day you will realize that wheat is a poison to your body too. 


Loving the wheat belly revitalization in my life for 2 months now and don’t “miss it” at all.



I bought my wife a fancy mixer for Christmas. We set about baking lots of bread and pastries. Within a week I had a bottle of Tums in every room in the house. Every joint hurt when I’d wake up in the morning. 


Realized the major change in diet was all the bread I was eating, so I googled and found Wheat Belly. 


We both gave up wheat right away. My wife, who had to take a Prilosec every morning for years, *immediately* within 1 day got off them and has not needed one since. I’ve lost 25 lbs, joint pain gone, and I haven’t had to take a Tums *once* since Jan 5.




You should actually try the diet and then maybe you would at least have a little credibility!



I have cut wheat as well as all other grains, sugar, soy, beans, dairy except allowed cheeses and have not lost one pound nor one inch. Have been on this plan for 2 months. I do have a significant decrease in pain and emotional issues like fear, anxiety, OCD, and I feel all-around better. Am not hungry nor do I have blood sugar drops like I used to, but still no weight loss. I even have cut out blended spices and onion and garlic powder as I understand they can have gluten in them to make them pour more easily. I have also replaced my vitamins with EVERYTHING-free but the vitamin part. 

Would be interested in any responses to this.



Dropping out wheat worked for me too. I have had lung issues (tightness and congestion) so I started a no sugar diet about 6 months ago.(basically a candida diet) Worked great and I lost about 30 pounds but I still had some lung congestion on occasion. I read Wheat Belly and figured I would drop out Wheat as an experiment. My lung issues are gone. They were evidently being caused by the small amount of wheat that I was still eating, wraps and such on occasion. Anyone who is suffering from one of the health issues discussed in the book owes it to themself to do their own test and ignore the naysayers.



3 months, lost 17 pounds, 4 inches off waist. Haven’t been hungry. Did have to change some eating habits. Never felt better, knees don’t hurt anymore. All I can say is don’t knock it if you haven’t tried it.



How simplistic your approach is! I am one of the proofs how healthy this way of eating is. Lost 9 pounds in two weeks, no sleep problem anymore, no more cravings right after meals. No foggy thinking and afternoon tiredness as well. I am very thankful to Dr Davis. Wheat is enemy!



This article is just ridiculous and I’m glad it was not the basis for my decision of whether or not to give Wheat Belly a try. Well I did that June 4, 2012. Since that date I have lost 30 pounds, but even more important than that I have lost a lot of inflammation, inches, joint and muscle aches, and 2 blood pressure medications. I have no problem sticking with this WOE. Yes, the withdrawal during the first week was harsh, but that just proves to me how addictive wheat is and how glad I am to be rid of this toxin.



Under Ms. Amidor’s “Not-So-Good” claims: 

“Many statements made by the author can be refuted or are controversial as seen in this in-depth analysis written by Dr. Julie Jones.” 

– Really? Check out “Dr.” Jones. She’s a paid shill for the grains industry. Not surprising she’s in favor of grains. Follow the money. Oh, and she’s also a paid shill for the raisin industry. Follow the money. 

“It is virtually impossible to follow this plan while traveling or dining out.” 

– Absolute nonsense. Easy to follow. I’ve been doing it for months. 

“Many folks will stop this diet just as quickly as they started it.” 

– Hogwash. Anyone who starts this new way of eating (it’s not a diet or temporary fad) even for a few days will never go back. 

“Fasting for prolonged periods of time is unhealthy and unsafe.” 

– Who said you have to do that? Certainly not Dr. Davis in Wheat Belly. 

All Toby Amidor has done with this specious bit of nonsense is lower her own professional reputation. Who’s paying you Ms. Amidor?



I’ve been following Wheat Belly way of eating for 3 months and have lost 22 pounds. For the first time in my life, I am satisfied with what I eat, no longer feel deprived and don’t dwell on what I wish I could eat. But most importantly, I feel so energized! The heel pain that had kept me from walking or even standing for any length of time disappeared after 2 weeks. I now stand all day, walk, and hike all I want to with no pain. Also knee pain, hemorrhoid pain, brain fog and a year long post nasal drip are gone! Wheat is a toxic poison that no one should consume. I challenge anyone who cares about their health to read and the book Wheat Belly, and try it! Then prepare to be amazed!



I agree with a lot of these comments. I am also wheat free and even started a blog to document my changes and my research where I took it even further … Completely staying away from GMO, processed and other non organic foods. So much information I have collected I even added a video page full of videos. 

What I am saying gather and read information and then decide how you choose to make your lifestyle changes that work for you. Because this is not a diet it is a lifestyle geared to promoting health. 

Check out the info here



About 35-38 lbs lost for me it will be 4 months on Nov. 2…..without adding any additional exercise. The biggest change is my outlook on food. I now never overheat nor eat just cuz I am bored or “want” a certain food. I actually wait until I have the sensation of hunger. I’m never going back to wheat or the other stuff! Thanks wheat belly!



Yes I have tried it. I’ve lost 20kgs in under 6 months. My asthma and eczema have vanished too. Its a very realistic diet and I will be doing it for the rest of my live happily.



Just because you cannot imagine your life without bread, pasta and prepackaged foods (yes, a LOT of them have wheat/gluten in them), doesn’t mean you should look down your nose at a diet like this. There’s a LOT of sound evidence in Dr Davies’ book… read that part, not just the “diet” part and make an informed decision as to whether you could live your life without this highly toxic grain. I




I follow this plan and recently went off it.recently for my holidays. oh my what conseqences! My belly is back to being swollen I am hungry all the time. Going back to it and never going off again! Please try it.. give yourself one month and see what happens.. if it is not life changing then go back to the old way of eating!!


I have been wheat-free for three months now. The bottom line for me is that this is something I can live with and I have not felt this good since I was in my 30’s (I’m a man in my 50’s). It IS realistic AND healthy. 


I had lost about 25 pounds to old way prior to learning about “Wheat Belly”, and dropped about 15 pounds since then very easily. 


In addition, I find myself wanting to make healthy choices. It’s a mindset I can live with. I knew I could not continue to be overweight as I got older, and this plan came along at the right time for me.



We eliminated wheat (and dairy) almost 2 years ago to see if it would help the two children we adopted who had impaired immune systems and multiple health problems from prenatal exposure to alcohol and other toxins. Our family took an “all for one and one for all” approach and did this together and I couldn’t be more grateful! We not only helped our children, we helped ourselves! Our two children are off a combined 4 medications and we are working on eliminating our fifth! (One medication for asthma, one for acid reflux, one for chronic constipation, one psychiatric medication and the fifth is also a psychiatric medication.) Life with FASD (Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorders) is beyond challenging and we had years of violent raging, mood swings, illness, etc….but our kids are doing better than ever now! As for myself, my skin rash, chronic aches from an arthritic hip, and vertigo were gone within a few weeks! I had no idea any of these things were connected to wheat and didn’t read Wheat Belly until almost a year in to our eating plan. We did this as a 3 month desperate experiment that I expected to fail, but two years in we do not ever plan to go back to the way we used to eat.



Hm, hard to see how this so called review and supportive “in depth” article could have got it so wrong, other than that both authors are paid by the processed food industry. 


Just look at the responses. Read the book, follow the blog, read all about Paleo diets in general. I am totally convinced its the way forward.



hey, maybe the foodnetwork had toby write this article to see how much interest there would be in a couple new shows on gluten-free cooking!!! (if not, then they should consider producing a couple with all these wonderful pro-gluten free responses!)



Wow. I think it’s safe to say that Ms. Amidor’s piece didn’t go over too well! 


You can see that the firestorm she started is consequent to the extravagant results people are experiencing in both weight loss and health turnarounds. 


I am the author of the book in question, Wheat Belly. I would welcome a chance to debate Ms. Amidor on camera: Name a time and place on any venue on Food Network, and I will be more than happy to debate Ms. Amidor or any other food “expert.” 


I can be reached either via the email address I provided or on my Wheat Belly Blog.



As I was walking through our local grocery store the other day, my 12yr old son said, “Mom, what stinks?” I took a sniff and replied, “That would be fresh baked bread from the bakery.” Who would have thought that fresh baked bread would stink? My family has been wheat-free since reading Wheat Belly by Dr. Davis. I can’t tell you how much better we feel. Migraines, brain fog, heart burn, digestion issues, belly fat, all gone! Not to mention that we are not starving and thinking of our next meal. What are you willing to give up for your health?



I would advise not making broad pronouncements that you assume to be true – but are not. Like most of what you said under “not so good.” First, the “cold turkey isn’t an effective” comment…Have you ever gone to an AA meeting? How about a substance abuse treatment group? In my six years as an addictions counselor we never advised someone to “slow down.” We said “Stop – now.” Cold turkey is the way to go in dealing with addictions – and wheat (and carbs) is an addiction. And then there’s the “Virtually impossible when eating out”. I’ve been eating low carb and essentially wheat free for six years now. Tough choices in eating out? yes. Impossible? no. I eat out 2-3 times a week. It’s not impossible. I’d be dead by now if I hadn’t gone this route. Data? My A1C before was 11.6. This year it was 5.2….So stop with the truisms that you can’t back up. Open your mind to the ideas offered. Low carb / wheat free is healthy and doable.



Shame on you. You need to do a lot more research. I love being wheat free. Feel so good for it and I know of thousands who feel the same.



Have I tried it? I love it. and this article is full of SH….WHEAT!



Love my new wheat free life!



Sooooo, to follow Wheat Belly I am forced to eat tasty meat, fish, chicken, vegetables, fruit some nuts and avoid tasteless grains and soy? How will I ever survive???? Please pass that rare steak and two big helpings of veg dripping with butter. – yum!



Utter rubbish! 

No wheat/sugar for me has resulted in the following: no more insomnia, no more achy knees, normal blood sugars, weight loss and most importantly…a happier and healthier me! 

Virtually impossible to eat out? More rubbish! Just got back from a lovely dinner out…calabrese salad, steak with veggies and a peppermint tea.



Ouch…re-track much? Lol!!! Wheat is poison now – took it out of my body 3 years ago after almost dying from so many ailments and no doctor could figure it out. Dr. Davis’ book is SPOT ON TRUTH!



I’ve been wheat free for 5 months. Before I read the book, I went out of town one weekend, ate at an Italian restaurant (garlic rolls, pasta and lots of wine). I had the worst acid reflux that night. I used to have it regularly and always traveled with antacids but hadn’t had it for months so I didn’t even think to bring any with me. I suffered through the night and blamed it on too much wine (which I always thought was the culprit). Then a month later I read Wheat Belly and had the “Aha” moment that it was the wheat I consumed that night– not the wine! Haven’t had a single other incidence of reflux since. Plus… I’ve lost 45 pounds! Fact is, it works. I no longer crave anything. I eat out regularly and easily.



Sorry Toby! At the age of 45 I started I training for Ironman triathlons this went on for 4 years. I ate only wholesome food including wheat, I trained an average of 2 hours every weekday and 16 hours on the week end. Yes I was in great shape but NEVER lost that ring around my belly and stayed at 205 lb?? Read Wheat Belly and said to myself this sounds logical and gave up wheat. Currently I’m more of a recreationally athlete now but guess what belly ring gone, 195 lb and I feel great after the first month. Please tell me why I should go back to eating wheat???



Where exactly have you gotten your information? Perhaps from “pro-wheat” sources? Add me to the growing list of people who find the Wheat Belly way transformational and freeing. I have battled health and weight issues for 25 years, no matter how healthy I kept my diet and exercise regime I never improved. This past February I discovered that my 25 year health condition was in fact an autoimmune disease and to that particular disease I had acquired worsening roseacea (another autoimmune disease), early stages of fibromyalgia as well as a long list of allergies that continued to grow. ALL related to my immune system. 


The recommended course of action for my initial autoimmune disease was a gluten/wheat free diet. So I began a gluten free diet and within four days my energy improved, my chronic fatigue and pain lessened. After three weeks, during which time I detoxed rather badly as the effects of wheat. One month into a gluten free diet and all of my allergy symptoms were gone, all joint pain, fatigue and digestive issues were gone. My health is the best it has ever been, my blood sugar and cholesterol levels are healthy again and the only thing I have removed from my diet is wheat. So your opinion of this diet being unrealistic and unhealthy is inaccurate. What is unhealthy is the food that is sold to us in the USA, food so frankensteined and filled with poisons and toxins that it is extremely challenging to eat healthy. I am thankful for finding the Wheat Belly book and website because Dr Davis’ hard work saved me from twenty more years of struggle, illness and pain PLUS learning that most of the starch-filled gluten free products on the market are often just as bad for our bodies.



Eliminating wheat from my diet was the best thing I have done for my health. I have been wheat free for about a year and will NEVER go back. 

Before you give such baseless opinions in the future, you may want to do a little homework. 


BTW, it is not, as you claim, virtually impossible to stick to this plan while dining out. I do it about 5 times a week.




I cut back wheat two years ago. Two months ago, I began eating Paleo. I have elimintated all grains and legumes, and I feel amazing. No more migraines. No more gas and bloating, and nobody asks if I am pregnant anymore. No more stomach pain or reflux. My blood pressure is down to normal and the numbness and tingling in my fingers and toes is gone. The odd time I “cheat”, the reflux, gas, and stomach pain are almost immediate, so cheating it pretty rare. When I quit all the grains cold turkey, I did have the “carb flu” for a couple of days, but within a week, I didn’t want to go back. The side benefit of cutting out grains is that I no longer crave sugar as I did. It is impossible to eat out, if you want to eat out at fast food restaurants. Yep. That’s right: fast food has disappeared from my life, and I have no cravings for it at all. When I do eat out, it’s at a real restaurant, and it’s no problem. I am happy and healthy, and I am telling the world.



Since June 25th of this year (2012) my wife has lost her migraine headaches, her blood sugar is now normal and she’s dropped 20 pounds. I’ve lost 31 pounds, quite my acid-blockers and am in the process of dropping my Benicar, as my blood pressure has dropped. Thank you Gary Taubes and Dr. Davis.



Way to go Tony! Say bye-bye to your credibility, and your reputation. 


Wheat Belly gave me my life back. Real world steps for real world results.



Hey Amidor, 

I travel all the time (pilot) and easily stay on program. Oh, and I have added at least 5 quality years to my life. You should just keep your mouth shut, or at least spew your nonsense about subjects you have expertise in. I am not just mindlessly following the latest diet fad. Idiot.



So the statements are being refuted by a scientific advisor for the Grains Food Foundation in a magazine called Cereal Foods World? Hardly an unbiased source. I expect better from FoodNetwork



Add one more to the list. 2 months now and I will never, ever go back. I’ve completely lost my obsession with food. It’s like being a different person, truly, and I’ve done NOTHING but remove wheat (hardcore, I don’t eat anything that has any trace of wheat in it) – still eat chocolate, ice cream, rice, potatoes. I feel normal for the first time in my life. It’s insane.





Say something!! Your silence is deafening….. 


Please respond to these good, genuine people who took the time to respond to your article…



I have lost weight pretty easily on Wheat Belley” and the main problem with staying on the wheat free way of eating is the stupid pressure to eat “heart healthy grains” which are “essential to your health”. Let me call it the “Nutritionists Mantra”. 


I consider this as a subset of “Carbohydrate Overzealosity”. This is similar to the idea that carbohydrates are essential to health and should be a basic part of the USDA (Department of AGRICULTURE) diet. 




I can’t say that I’ve “tried the Wheat Belly Diet,” but I have read the book and it confirms my own experience on a similar lifestyle plan (don’t call it a diet) where I have eaten the foods recommended on “Wheat Belly” and eliminated all carbs except for leafy green veggies for nearly 14 years. 

I actually look sort of like the bikini-clad model in the final stage of “Wheat Belly.” And I will be 60 in March, Eat your heart out. 

But, of more importance, is my spectacular health – no meds, never see a doctor, go all day without eating (after a breakfast of egg yolks and bacon) with energy to spare, biked over 3000 miles this past summer, and all that with a terrible family history of diabetes and heart disease. The health benefits of following Dr. Davis’s recommendations are beyond belief. Try it.



First of all….it is not a diet! Doesn’t feel like a diet! Not starving, not deprived. I didn’t even know about the fasting recommendation. I’ll have to back and research through the book. All the positive comments I have read on this site I agree with. It is wonderful! I love it! I will say I had to go back and look at the credentials of the author of this wheat belly bashing. Try it before you tear it down. We all can’t be wrong. So much healthy success. Weight loss is just the perk, the health benefits are the real goal. And they are real. I am going on 5 months wheat/grain/sugar/starch free and have never been happier. And will NEVER go back. It’s not your fault…none of us knew before Dr. Davis enlightened us.



Hmmm… Losing 25 pounds over 2 months, the dissapeance of a 10 year rash, better feeling overall, better stamina, good eating while out, what was being said again? 


I wonder what the comments are for the paleo folks? That diet is more extreme than wheat belly.



At this point, I’m just stating what’s already been said here in all the amazing comments. But I just can’t help but share my experiences, too. I went wheat-free just over a year ago. Before I read Dr. Davis’ book, I happened to stumble upon my own results. I started a diet that was grain-free and lost 15 lbs. in less than 3 weeks. Then I heard about Wheat Belly and quickly bought the book and read it cover to cover. I put my recent findings and the book together and was simply amazed. I had finally figured out what was wrong. I had pain in my legs that no doctor could explain. I had been on acid reflux meds for 3 years and it had recently stopped being effective. I felt puffy, bloated and fatigued all the time. As soon as I eliminated wheat from my diet, all of that went away. I continued to stay off the wheat and eventually all of my symptoms disappeared completely and I began to feel better than I had in more than 10 years. I eventually had to also give up dairy due to casein intolerance as well, but getting off of wheat and dairy has been the best decision I’ve ever made in my life. My blood glucose levels are normal. My blood pressure is normal. And in spite of being diagnosed with high cholesterol in my younger days due to poor genetics, my cholesterol levels are awesome! I don’t focus on food all the time. I’m not constantly hungry or craving breads and pastries. I’m healthy and I feel amazing! And I’ve eliminated all the meds I was on except allergy meds. There’s no way I would EVER eat wheat again. I’ll stick to the healthier grains (organic brown rice, quinoa, organic oatmeal) in small amounts and focus on my organic produce, thank you very much!




I love you Food Network but you are dead wrong on this one. My story is typical. I started going gluten free this summer and the weight is falling off. I haven’t really been exercising and I am NEVER hungry. I’ve only been doing this since the end of August and feel better than I have in 30 years. I eat lots of nuts, cheese, fruit and veg and meat — as much as I want and just drive right past all those bakeries where I used to get a whole grain bagel or croissant for breakfast. I feel clearer headed, I have more energy, my allergies and asthma have let up, joint pain is diminished, I sleep better and feel healthier. And this is only a partial list of the symptoms that have lessened or disappeared completely since I gave up wheat. I have no cravings for bread or wheat products because I feel so good NOT eating them. Who wants to go back to feeling tired, breathless, achy, old, hungry, and muzzy headed all the time? Sorry guys, the idea that we somehow NEED wheat and grain products is preposterous. I eat a delicious gluten free cereal made of nuts and seeds and dried fruit for breakfast. It is ridiculously delicious. Who needs toast or cold cereal? My friends are trying it and they are experiencing similar benefits. I dare you to try going totally gluten free for a month. You don’t even have to do everything ‘Wheat Belly’ recommends and you will still feel amazing just by eliminating the wheat and wheat products from your diet. Guaranteed.

Being wheat free has transformed the lives of my entire family! My son struggled with severe behavior issues and eczema prior to going wheat free. He is a completely different (and amazing!) child. We will never go back to eating wheat! We are all much healthier and have tons more energy. It is the easiest “diet” we have ever followed!



Add me to this list of wheat free eaters. I have several friends who have gone wheat free and they all agree that it’s one of the best decisions they’ve ever made. 


Not hungry, eat extremely well and it’s easy to follow. 


Toby, give it a try. Oh, but that might put a crimp in your reporting style – to see how well it works, no?



I have not consumed wheat or any other grain from February to October 2012 and am still grain free… I have gone from 326.8 pounds to 279.6 pounds. This is done without exercise… I have noticed several changes like better sleep, little to no swelling in my legs, healing better, more energy and down 3 pant and shirt sizes. I also need to mention that my performance in bed is by far better. That in its self it rewarding…



Clearly everything I wanted to say to refute Toby’s article has already been said. But here goes anyway. In six weeks without wheat, the following has happened to me: 


I have lost the brain fog, I’m less depressed, thinking more quickly on my feet, more sociable, and more approachable. 


My belly fat is melting away. I’ve lost a few kilos but I think there’s muscle mass added as my clothes are all fitting way better and I’m wearing shirts I haven’t worn in years. 


I’m moving around much more freely, with less pain and more vigour. I’m recovering from a spinal injury and my recovery has been painful and slow over the last 15 months, but now things are just taking off. 


My appetite has dropped down to nothing. I used to always be a little hungry and I never ever felt full, no matter how much I ate. Now I feel full after small meals and can easily skip a meal and/or substitute a snack for a meal because I just simply feel satisfied. 


I haven’t had more than a few specks of ear wax on one Q-Tip once since going wheat-free. Usually I have heaps on the Q-Tip four or five times a week.



The only reason this is called a diet is because taking out wheat and carbs is a learning phase for people and we who give up wheat – or rather, get off wheat – change ways of eating so it’s handy to call it a diet. 


In reality Dr Davis has written a user-friendly book about the dietetic monster that is agriculturally corrupted wheat and the horrible bodily/mental afflictions it causes, whether it’s the more benign manifestations of mental fog and some arthritis to full blown diabetes, cancer, colostomy bags , bowel damage and the like. 


This is not trivial, and the best thing about this “review” is that it prompts comments by so many people who have gone off wheat and who can state confidently how their health has improved. 

Going off wheat won’t cure everything,as many people still ahve other medical conditions. But its disruption and confusion factor is eliminated and there n othing but benefits to stop putting this poison in our mouths, no matter how appetisingly it is disguised.



I suggest that not only wheat, but certain dietitians should be culled froom the lives of those wanting to stay healthy. 


I’m interested in dietitans who want me to be healthy, not those who stick to a dogma depsite the evidence, or who will not try a new way, experiment or explore. 


There is NOTHING necessary about the wheat/grain/cereal part of food intake.



Just wondering if there’ll be another article from Toby on this topic? Any retractions? Any updates? Maybe in a couple of weeks after actually trying a wheat-free/grain-free way of eating? Hmmmm …



Eliminating wheat has been the best thing I’ve ever done, food-wise. In fact, when I stop eating all grains (I allow rice when eating out), I feel incredible! I no longer need to soothe my sweet tooth constantly, which is a huge bonus. I don’t understand how this can be considered an honest review…it’s like you’ve never read anything else about how problematic wheat is, and there is plenty of information available. You might also notice that all the information about “health whole grains” is completely fabricated. Have you read Gary Taubes? Of course I agree that wheat tastes good, but that’s its only posititive point, and that’s just not good enough for me. Openness to ideas will go a long way in anyone’s life. We all allowed ourselves to be conned into thinking grains were good for us, but it’s time to leave that terrible idea behind.



“Going cold turkey isn’t an effective way to teach someone good habits. Many folks will stop this diet just as quickly as they started it.” 


Maybe that’s true. But this suggests several things. First, going cold turkey says wheat is a big part of our diet. It is. Next, saying something like ‘going cold turkey’ says maybe we’re talking about an addiction. From the responses we get when we tell people to stop eating bread (over my dead body, I’ll go nuts, are you crazy?, etc), I think we can safely say we are dealing with an addiction. Finally, if we eat a varied diet, we go cold turkey every time we eat one food but not another, or eat one food only occasionally thus not at all the rest of the time. It’s safe to say our habits already include going cold turkey so that’s not a problem on its own. 


The unhealthy argument. That’s just not true. Wheat doesn’t contain unique nutrition we can’t get anywhere else. If you cut out wheat, you’ll eat more of other foods, net result is same nutrition. If wheat is indeed bad for all the reasons cited by Dr Davis, net result is the opposite of unhealthy. Either way, cutting wheat can’t be bad health wise. 


It’s true that we can refute many statements made by Dr Davis, and the in-depth analysis by Dr Julie Jones is an example of that. But then again, we can also refute many statements made by Dr Julie Jones in that in-depth analysis. Take out all refutable statements and keep only those that are true. We’re left with things like weight loss, health improvements, and specific statements with regards to celiac and gluten. Cutting out wheat looks better by the minute. 


I don’t know where the fasting comment comes from. But on its own, prolonged fasting is done by many cultures precisely to get a benefit. The term ‘prolonged’ is vague so we’d have to define specific parameters. 


There’s no difference in the choice of foods when we travel or dine out compared to eating at home. It’s a world economy, you see. If you want to abstain from eating wheat anywhere in the world, you can. The choice of foods is virtually as wide as there are cultures, countries, restaurants, and people. However, it’s true that wheat dominates our western diet, and it does become a chore when you want to be absolutely sure you don’t eat wheat. That’s a serious problem for celiac sufferers especially. 




Personally, I have tried a wheat-free diet. However, I can’t say it’s cutting out the wheat specifically that brought about my improvements in weight and health because during a time, I ate only meat. It could have been the sugar, the starch, the wheat, or all of the above. But based on all aspects of wheat – i.e. we eat a lot of it, it contains lots of carbohydrates thus interferes with blood glucose and fat metabolism – we can reasonably expect to see a positive change if all we do is cut out wheat, and eat more of the other foods we already eat to compensate.

I’ve been gluten free for about 7 years. It has proved to be one of the best things I’ve done for my health…..I feel better, no longer achey and puffy. 


I run a thyroid support group. At our first meeting, a doctor who was attending mentioned that one of the first things she tells thyroid patients is to give up gluten. One attendee took that to heart. A month later, she came to the meeting reporting that she had gone home, cleared her cabinets of gluten and had lost 19 lbs and felt it was amazingly easy and she was never hungry. Another month went by and she reported another 11 lbs down. 30 lbs in 2 months – not bad. 


My husband is a pilot, so he eats out all the time when he’s on the road. He has had heartburn for many years…..buys Tums in the large economy size bottle. Last April he stopped eating wheat (and added sugar and most packaged, processed foods). Within a week his longstanding heartburn vanished. He has lost nearly 20 lbs and is within spitting distance of his goal weight. He can’t get over how easy it’s been and how not-hungry he has felt. He feels sure he has been eating more calories too. 


If a pilot can do it, anyone can do it. The comment – “It is virtually impossible to follow this plan while traveling or dining out.” is simply not accurate.



Yeah, many Nutrients are eliminated…I eat eggs, lamb, turkey, chicken, fish, beef, celery, carrots, broccoli, cauliflower, peppers, cabbage, onions, garlic, asparugus, kale and other at least 10 other types of greens, 

and don’t forget, organic butter (high in vit. K2), and a bit of Yogurt , sour cream, cream, and so much more. 

Exactly what nutients am I missing out on?



I have lost weight pretty easily on Wheat Belley” and the main problem with staying on the wheat free way of eating is the stupid pressure to eat “heart healthy grains” which are “essential to your health”. Let me call it the “Nutritionists Mantra”. 


Most practicing nutritionists, as well as most practicing MDs, are not scientists, but are practitioners of an art that sometimes is based in evidence based science, but are equally adept at practicing “expert opinion” based art as well. 


Some do not know the difference. 




It is crap advise of the main stream media, like healthy whole grain, that kept me suffering for most of 60 years. Wheat is just poison for some of us.



Having read the book and gone wheat free for almost a year now, here are the results: 


Lost more than 60lbs 

No longer need insulin 

No more sinus infections, asthma, allergies, or upper respiratory infections. 

Acid Reflux gone 

Arthritis and joint pains GONE 

No colds. 

Eliminated ACE Inhibitors, Asthma inhalers, statins and insulin, as well as Flonase, Claritin, and Nexium 

Constant hunger is gone, much easier to deal with eating. Less shopping, having cut out all processed foods. 


Tell me again what is wrong with a diet that costs NOTHING and really works? I used to love watching the Food Network, but lately it just seems you are intent on poisoning your audience.



I thought your phrase “Going cold turkey” was very telling and and the implied meaning behind the phrase was probably the most accurate part of your article. Grains especially wheat can be very addictive and like any other drug that is bad for you it can be hard to kick the addiction but once you do the results are amazing.



Anyone convinced yet? 


Here’s an idea: the Food Network develops a show based on wheat-sugar-grain-free recipes for all us LOSERS! Pun intended.



I recently gave up wheat as well, although I haven’t read the Wheat Belly book, and can confidently and emphatically say that I haven’t felt this good in two decades. I’ve lost 30lbs so far, and have objective measures of improved health such as lowered triglycerides, lower blood pressure, better cholesterol profile, lower postprandial glucose levels, etc. 


The way this blog post is written makes it quite obvious that the conclusions of the author were reached far in advance of actually reading any relevant material. It’s that kind of attitude that has made Food Network second only to local 30-second “Health and Fitness” stories on the local news as among the worst sources of information on health and wellness.



I gave up wheat 7 weeks ago. My cousin suggested I try it for 30 days. I agreed but really had no intentions beyond that point. I feel SO much better I can’t imagine ever going back. I’ve gone beyond wheat and eat mostly grain free. I had chronic hip and shoulder pain that completely disappeared within the first week…..completely. I didn’t even know that wheat caused inflammation, so imagine my surprise. My 6 year old complained constantly of ‘tummy aches’. After reading the book (which I downloaded after the first couple weeks with such positive results), I thought maybe wheat was her problem. I eliminated wheat from her diet without her knowledge and guess what? No more tummy aches. She spent the night at my brother’s house and told me the next day she cried when she went to bed. I asked why and she said her tummy hurt ‘so bad’……they had pizza for dinner. I could go on, but you get the idea. We aren’t even doing this for weight loss, we are doing it for our health. I cook wheat free for my whole family and no one misses it.



I’m down 17 pounds in 6 weeks. I can turn my head to the side – which seems minor – but I haven’t been able to turn it past 30-45 degrees in years with out major pain and stress. Skin texture, tone and color are much better. Much more energy. Sleeping better. ZERO cravings for sweets. Can shop while “hungry” and not clean out the bakery section. Kids are better behaved. Should I go on? 


When dining out, I order meat or fish and veggies. Better restaurants will accomodate requests for modifications. 


Author needs to try it for a few months and then write an actual article of value.



I did not read Wheat Belly. However a surgeon friend told me about wheat and celiac over a year ago. I am not celiac but I did eliminate wheat and gluten from my diet. I am 49 now have lost 42 pounds in the past 15 months. Also I have eliminated: 



-acid reflux 

-arthritis pain 

-high blood pressure 


I have energy all the time. I sleep better and longer. I get alot more done at work and around the house. My activity level is way up. I actually have abs at my age and I did not work out until this past summer. I went cold turkey on wheat and it was no problem to do. I now cook more and avoid prepared store foods. My wife is happy since I am doing the cooking now, guess I have a talent for it. 


I will have to buy this book and see what he has to say.



Why should I believe the FDA, the American Dietetic Assoc, the American Diabetes Assoc, etc? They’re in cahoots with Big Pharma & Big Food. I’ve followed the govt’s food pyramid and ‘my plate’ for over 30 years, eating a ‘healthy whole grains’(NOT!), low fat, & high carb diet. What did it get me? It got me into a pre-diabetic state, that’s what! I was on the path to full-blown diabetes because I followed what these so-called consumer advocate organizations promoted. Eight months ago I became a “Wheat Belly” convert. Let me count the ways: Acid reflux –GONE. Body ache & stiffness – GONE. Post nasal drip – GONE. Cellulite – GONE. Ataxia – GONE. Blood pressure – lower than it’s been in 10 years (now 90 over 60). Night vision – double vision, shadows, & halos – GONE. Sleep like a baby now. A bad arm with limited range of motion that 7 years of chiropractic & physical therapy couldn’t fix. Elimination of wheat fixed it – full range of motion back in only 3 months of wheat-free. Constantly being so hungry every 90 minutes that my stomach would growl ferociously– GONE. Eating at a restaurant? No problem! I am more satisfied eating the variety of foods on the Wheat Belly ‘way of life’ (it’s not a diet) than I ever was when I ate a grain-based diet. Now I don’t even think about food. I can go 8 hours, not be hungry, and not even think about food. Big Pharma supports the FDA, and those organizations that are supposed to ‘protect’ us as consumers. We live in a capitalistic society. Follow the money — we’re no good them if we’re healthy. We’re no good to them if we’re dead. Keep us in a prolonged state of poor health – we’re worth millions $$$. Follow the money – look at the billions of dollars our gov’t subsidizes for wheat & grain producers. Organizations that downplay and ridicule the Wheat Belly movement usually stand to lose $$$$ if the Wheat Belly/no grain movement becomes the norm. So tell me, how much money does The Food Network stand to lose???



I’ve been on a Wheat Belly Diet for 3 months and I must say all of my joint pains, IBS and headaches are gone! My skin complexion has improved tremendously (no more rashes, inflamed skin, dry skin.) Have you actually tried the Wheat Belly diet? It’s one thing to talk about it and another thing to JUST DO IT. The review would be more complete with an actual n=1 trial by the writer/reviewer for a month.



You have completely missed the boat, Ms. Amidor. It is one thing to critique someone else’s work but you are not allowed to put words in their mouth. Dr. Davis does not advocate fasting. On page 199, he simply comments that it may be beneficial and much easier to accomplish, IF YOU WISH TO DO SO, without the blood sugar highs and lows that wheat causes. Even if you are an RD, you need to further your education and start thinking outside of the faulty science you were taught in school.



The Wheat Belly way of eating is pretty much exactly like paleo, which I have been on since April. Lost 15 pounds of visceral and abdominal fat, feel great, recovery time from exercise is shorter, look ripped, not hungry all the time like when I was eating half a loaf of bread a day. Blood lipid panels show a huge improvement. Never going back to eating all the crap; and you know what? For all the people that say “I can’t live without bread/wheat/pasta/fill-in-the-blank”, I don’t miss those foods!



I have to chime in here, 4 years of gluten free and nothing, and I mean NOTHING would entice me to eat wheat again. ditto for many of the above reasons. The Science of Nutrition is very very soft…..It needs a complete overhaul. If you are a registered dietician, you better get on board soon or risk being obliterated in the tide of knowledge coming at us through the Ancestral Health Movement…..



No comment Toby? Put your money where your mouth is and debate Dr. Davis (and the growing population of healthy, wheat free people). 


Good luck.



Ohhhh how embarrassing, Food Network. This recent post has more comments than your “5 most popular posts – Here’s what everyone was reading last month” link box at the top of the page. 


But about Wheat Belly — I battled eczema, mild asthma, and seasonal allergies for years. Countless trips to allergists, creams, tests, etc provided no relief. Eliminated the wheat, and all those problems went away. I’m not a huge fan of the baked goods made with almond/coconut meal/artificlal sweeteners that the author recommends as a treat – I find them to be the wrong combination of tasty, addictive and heavy (so after a few bites I’m too full but want more). But other than that I think this book and diet are perfect for me.



Prior to March 2011 I was having terrible problems with GERD. It had become so bad that it was affecting my sleep. One time, the pain was so bad, I went to the hospital thinking I was having a heart attack. My doctor did some tests, came to the conclusion that it was GERD. I tried antacids and various other remedies, nothing helped. I gave up wheat. Haven’t touched it since. I lost the GERD from the first day and have NOT had it since. Period. Gone. Also gone are 40 pounds. It has been easy because I know it was the wheat, and why would I want to eat something that, while it can taste good, caused me so much pain and suffering?



wow, Toby got owned on this one. 

Unfortunately, as a registered dietician she has to go along with the party line. There is very little room for independent thought in those circles.



I don’t think Toby was ever in menopause unable to lose an ounce even at the gym on a diet promoted by the government.



I’ve been grain-free for almost two years. Knock on wood — hopefully I’ll never have to go back to grains. As a long-distance runner, I was gaining weight in my old grain diet, and my times were reducing in marathons and ultra-marathons. Now, I pre-race fuel more conducive to health. I’ve realized that I don’t even need to eat anything other than my day-to-day meat-vegtable-fat-a little fruit diet for any race under 2 hours. But for longer races I glucouse-load — a much better fuel source than carbs from grains. The writer of this article needs to cite peer-review journal sources before bashing grain-free diet. I recommend she read “Good Calories, Bad Calories.”



Well Lets, see… Of all the comments regarding this review, how many are in favor of the author’s opinion? Count them and see… 

Well first off, this author is a registered dietician. I find these people promote high carbs, eat lots of wheat and wheat products, etc. And low fat too, I’m sure. 


I tried eating like this for the last 20 years and all it did for me, was turn me into a type II diabetic, with my doctor telling me, that I would have to go on insulin, as my blood sugar was terrible, along with high cholesterol and high blood pressure. 


As a LAST RESORT, I picked up the Wheat Belly book, by Dr William Davis, and thought after I had read it, why not? What I have been doing has only increased my weight, given me numerous medical problems and I had nothing to lose… (but the weight and my wheat belly) 


Four months later and I am still Wheat Free. I feel better and have more energy. I have reduced or removed several of my diabetes medications as my blood glucose now stays in the normal range, my blood pressure is normal, and best of all, I have lost 30 pounds. (My doctor was so impressed, he went out and bought the Wheat Belly book.) I look at going wheat free as a lifestyle choice, and I eat out all the time. I find not eating wheat products or food processed with wheat flour, to be a fairly easy thing to do. Oh yes, I don’t exercise any greater than I did previously. 


If you had actually read Dr William Davis’ book, Wheat Belly, and researched his references, you would find that there is growing scientific evidence to support every one of his claims. To think that modern wheat products are harmful to us, will one day be accepted, even by you, but I won’t wait for that day, and will be content to ride out on the leading edge of dietary change for the better. 


In conclusion, all I can say to Toby, is people used to think the earth was flat too.


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139 reacties op Je werkt voor de graanlobby en je roept eens wat…

  1. James zegt:

    En ik was van plan om een paar quotes aan te halen 🙂 Whatever the hype in Davis’ boek, het heeft in ieder geval effect. Mijn vrouw is hier gelukkig niet de reluctant convert en heeft al heel wat mensen aan het idee geholpen om het eens te proberen.

    • Meest consistent genoemde zaken die verdwijnen/normaliseren sans tarwe: IBS (‘prikkelbare darm syndroom’, ofwel de gewone graanbuik), GERD (zuurbranden), reumatische klachten, hypertensie, (pre)diabetes, oedeem, angststoornissen.

      Bijzonder krachtig placebo-effect genereert deze boodschap ;-).

      • James zegt:

        Vooral die laatste opmerking van jou is in de roos. De enige manier om dit soort kritieken ongeschonden bij the general public te krijgen is zonder commentaren. Ik vermoed, weet het haast wel zeker want ik zie het rondom ons heen, dat degenen die het geprobeerd hebben zo laaiend enthousiast zijn dat ze gewoon op de loer liggen om dit soort kwasi kritieken te ontzenuwen.

  2. 1skateguru zegt:

    even een quote aanhalen en een reactie voor mensen die precies hetzelfde denken:”“It is virtually impossible to follow this plan while traveling or dining out.” Thats interesting? I just arrived home from a weeks holiday in Port Douglas, North Queensland and had no problem at all in eating? lol” Het is juist super makkelijk, terwijl onderweg, maar ook bij uit eten gaan. Je kunt in ieder restaurant om alleen het vlees vragen en de salade of groentes en frietjes, pasta en de stokbrood en twijfelachtige sauzen achterwege laten. Dessert: fruit! En onderweg, terwijl je , heel Hollands, gewend bent een stapeltje boterhammen mee te nemen? Een hardgekookt ei blijft lang vers (of koude gebakken kip van de vorige dag). een handje noten erbij en wat ongeschild en ongesneden fruit, mini-komkomers en tomaatjes. Lekker en lang niet zo saai als dat stapeltje boterhammen met kaas. En op kantoor of de zaak. Zelf je sla (salade naar eigen keus) snijden en wassen doe je in een handomdraai, daarbij vlees, kip, tonijn (desnoods zalm, ha ha) tomaat, komkommer, avocado, parika, overgebleven groenten van de vorige dag (lekker varieren), nootjes, olijfolie, peper en zout. Klaar ben je.

    • Precies, Skate! Ik ben dit jaar ongebruikelijk veel onderweg geweest en moest ‘verplicht’ eten in restaurants en hotels en echt, het is een eitje ;-). Ik herinner me één ochtend in een hotel in Zeeland. Dat ontbijtbuffet… Tien soorten koude vis, allerlei fantastische vleeswaren, salades, olijven, fruit… Pas om negen uur ’s avonds at ik weer. En wat namen alle andere gasten? Muesli, cornflakes, broodjes met jam… Al die geweldige paleospullen vinden zij ‘avondeten’. Je zou het bijna zo willen houden ;-).

      En inderdaad, on the go is ook hartstikke makkelijk.

  3. Janet Noome zegt:

    Ik zag een paar dagen geleden deze tweet van dr. William Davis voorbij komen en natuurlijk 😉 triggerde dat mij: ‏”@WilliamDavisMD It was going just fine . . . until they interviewed the dietitian!” Deze link hing eraan: Naast Toby zijn er nog velen ook hier. Ziende blind en horende doof zullen we maar zeggen.

  4. Frans zegt:

    Mmm… 300+ reacties, dat begint serieuze vormen aan te nemen! Het moet toch bij de graan lobby beginnen te dagen dat dit niet gaat overwaaien als het zoveelste South Beach of The Zone dieet.

      • James zegt:

        “..weker zeten.” Jij kunt er wel wat van zo nu en dan. Kom er nu na een halve week pas achter wat er staat. Wekker zetten? het tipping point is zo dichtbij? Zeker weten 🙂 Moet me misschien toch aan een wat ztricter paleo regiem gaan houden.

        • Meligheid kent geen tijd, James ;-). Super flauw, skoezee.

          In diezelfde geest het volgende. Andreas Eenfeldt testte een middel (Glucosanol) dat belooft de opname van glucose uit een koolhydraatrijke maaltijd vrijwel volledig te blokkeren. Een pilletje om neolithische koolhydraten te kunnen eten zonder te betalen met de gebruikelijke pathologische postprandiale glucose-excursies. Het werkte niet, zijn bloedsuiker piekte als verwacht, na een bord rijst. De dokter merkte op dat hij het al verdacht vond dat er geen extra gasvorming optrad. Als koolhydraten niet opgenomen (kunnen) worden en door reizen naar de colon, worden ze immers per definitie ongehoord ruftogeen.

          Voor een lezer van de dokter aanleiding om op te merken:

          “Just avsaknaden av flatulens är nog faktiskt en av de saker som jag saknar mest med LCHF, det är få saker här i livet som är så djupt hedonistiskt tillfredställande som en riktigt ordentlig brakfis.”

          Hetgeen betekent:

          “Juist die afwezigheid van flatulentie is eerlijk gezegd een van de dingen die ik het meest mis op LCHF. Er zijn weinig dingen in dit leven die zo’n diep hedonistische bevrediging schenken als een werkelijk goede knalscheet.”

          Ik hoor dat vaker. Dat mensen na invoering van paleo of LCHF hun winden missen, vooral de zieke, intens zwavelrijke methaanwalmen waaraan ze zich stiekem plachten te verlustigen. Die hen troost en een gevoel van geborgenheid boden. Tip: cognitieve gedragstherapie helpt bij dit soort onthechtingsproblematiek.

        • James zegt:

          Gewoon door blijven gaan. Houdt iedereen op zij/haar tenen.
          Met Glucanol zijn ze og bezig
          Alles wat maar helpt om toch maar te blijven doen wat we de laatste vijftig jaar gedaan hebben. Maarrr …. waar het niet bij helpt is de witte olifant in de kamer te omzeilen. Omega6 :3 onbalans.
          Ja, ik weet als je alleen een hamer hebt ziet de rest van de wereld er uit als een grote spijker. 🙂

      • Fien zegt:

        Gezellig onderwerp waarover ik kan meepraten. 🙂 Ik laat namelijk de meest verschrikkelijke winden als ik aardpeer gegeten heb, en in iets mindere mate bij pastinaak. Elke vijf minuten is het raak. Uren achtereen. Ergens naar toegaan of mensen op bezoek is onmogelijk. Inuline of zoiets. Misschien waardeloze darmflora? Wie het weet, mag het zeggen. Ik vind aardpeer heerlijk, maar ben ermee gestopt. Het gekke is dat ik een paar jaar geleden nog nergens last van had.

  5. Niels zegt:

    Heeft zilvervliesrijst hetzelfde negatieve effect als tarwe ?

  6. George zegt:

    Hier is weer een voorbeeld (n=1) van iemand die zich zelf genas van diabetes 2, hij is arts die de oerinwoners van Amerika behandelde met medicamenten (wist hij veel) en toen zelf diabetes 2 kreeg.
    En toen?
    Hij wilde zelf geen medicijnen gebruiken en ging hij over op “almost zero carbs” en had nergens meer last van;
    Lees verder hier over op:

    Verder over een andere ziekte, namelijk kanker en het verband met suiker:

  7. George zegt:

    Een artikel* over: Wat zijn de voordelen van granen in hondenvoeding?
    Het is van de gekke, maar er zijn dierenartsen die zonder met hun ogen te knipperen beweren dat honden granen nodig hebben!? (Waar hebben we dat meer gehoord?)
    Je kunt je overigens het lezen van het hele artikel besparen: het antwoord op de vraag is o, zero, nada………

  8. @rnold zegt:

    Chi haalt William Davis ‘boek onderuit. Het lastige is volgens mij dat we gewoon nog niet goed weten waarom en hoe graan nou precies nadelig werkt.

    • Dat was te verwachten. Het grote probleem is dat Davis slordig te werk is gegaan en inderdaad veel roept zonder goede onderbouwing. Maar er zit meer achter al die fenomenaal positieve n=1 verhalen dan de calorierestrictie waar Chi het op gooit. Waar is Spreadbury in dit betoog? Waar is Fasano?

      Dit soort Sirenen zijn uiterst corrosief. Ze kunnen gemakkelijk te intimideren mensen ervan weerhouden een leefstijlmaatregel te proberen die hen grote gezondheidswinst kan bezorgen. Voor zover ik weet zijn er geen RCT’s die de schadelijkheid van het weglaten van tarwe aantonen.

      En jij zegt dat deze man zelf paleo leeft? Weet je dat zeker?

      • James zegt:

        Uit het hart gegrepen. Ik reageer maar helemaal niet meer op dit menneke. Deed het zelfde met Lustig. Hoort in de categorie : het kind met het bad water weg gooien. Nog meer N= legio? over 400 and counting.

        • @rnold zegt:

          Ik weet niet hoe Paleo hij exact is.

          Ik weet wel dat ik ook van Chivo veel leer. Het is goed voor mijn eigen paleo-oogklepjes. Naast het Paleo pesectief doe ik het vooral met Wolf en Sisson.

          Voor zover ik het kan bepalen is het een hele slimme kerel. Volgens mij schrijft hij weinig onzin en is in discussies sterk. Hij maakt zich vooral sterk tegen, zoals hij het zelf noemt, histerie. Dus tegen Lustig suiker verhaal, tegen Taubes insuline verhaal en tegen Davis en zijn gluten verhaal. En daar is hij vrij goed in.

          Maar zonder dat we het precies kunnen bewijzen en bepalen zijn er zoveel mensen die baat hebben bij een paleo leefstijl (waaronder ikzelf) dat kun je toch niet negeren. En n=1 verhalen, zelfs als het er ruim 400 zijn op een artikel, zitten volgens hem vooral tussen de oren. Hij komt dan met de vergelijking dat er miljoenen mensen die geloofden in de positieve effecten van die balansbandjes. Daarin heeft hij dan wel weer een verfrissend punt. Geen sterk punt, maar toch.

          In de tussentijd eet ik vooral zo weinig mogelijk fabrieksvoedsel en voel me heel goed!

      • Chi L. Chiu zegt:

        Haha Melchior,

        Ja, deze man leeft paleo (sinds 1999) en zijn team bestaat ook uit paleo sympathisanten, maar daarnaast begeleiden we als team ook duizenden mensen en moeten we onze voorkeur scheiden van bewijs. Ik moet procedures aflopen en ik kan niet lukraak experimenten op mijn cliënten, laat staan dat al mijn cliënten financieel moeten opdraaien voor mijn geëxperimenteer. Het is onprofessioneel en bovendien onethisch, maar wellicht heb ik gewoon een rare set waarden en normen.

        Ik wil wel je punten adresseren:

        1. Williams roept veel zonder goede onderbouwing
        Ik denk dat een understatement van jewelste is. Ik heb zijn boek gelezen en zijn referenties nagetrokken. Hij is of een leugenaar of volslagen incompetent en ik weet eerlijk gezegd niet wat erger is. Ik vind het daarom zo interessant dat je mijn artikelen corrosief vind, terwijl ik toch zou zeggen dat het paleo gedachtengoed, die we beiden schijnbaar omarmen, pas echt schade aandoet. Ik snap eerlijk gezegd niet, dat je je daar niet over opwindt.

        2. Er zit meer achter al die fenomenaal positieve n=1 verhalen
        Ik kom in de praktijk zeker gevallen tegen van mensen die tarwe intolerant zijn. Of het door de gluten komt, weet ik niet, ik kan dat namelijk niet bepalen. Dit overigens in tegenstelling tot een legioen van betweters, die het niet alleen zeker weten, maar op een of andere wijze mij niet duidelijk kunnen maken hoe ze aan deze briljante vaardigheden komen. Maar laat je niet afleiden door mijn verwondering, want veel belangrijker is namelijk dat als ik een goed rotatie / eliminatie dieet traject doorloop, dat ik twee derde vals positieven eruit filter. Dat was vroeger slechts een kwart, dus het spijt me zeer, maar die fenomenaal positieve n=1 verhalen, betekenen werkelijk helemaal niets. En als ik een flauwe vraag mag stellen, hoeveel cliënten heb jij het afgelopen jaar gezien en hoe nauwkeurig zijn jouw dossiers en procedures?

        3. Calorierestrictie
        De energiebalans is ondanks haar elegante eenvoud toch zeer complex. Ik kan me herinneren dat je een video postte van de BBC documentaire ‘Why thin people don’t get fat’ en suggereerde dat er zoiets als is luxusconsumptie. Met enige kennis van de energiebalans en daarmee dus ook van de validiteit van metingen, had je dit nooit gesuggereerd in relatie tot video. Mijn studenten kunnen namelijk na dag 1 deze docu al uiteentrekken en vertellen welke delen zinnig zijn (heel weinig) en welke op de schroothoop mogen. Ik vind dus de uitspraak, dat er meer steekt achter deze fenomenale testimonials dan een effect van de energiebalans, dan ook misplaatst. Je wilt overigens ook niet weten hoeveel geweldige testimonials er zijn voor de power balance bandjes.
        4. Waar is Spreadbury in dit betoog? Waar is Fasano?
        Het is interessant dat je het spannender vind om te rapporteren over hypotheses dan over daadwerkelijk bewijs. Hoewel ik alle literatuur met alle aandacht volg, moet ik toch een onderscheid maken tussen de twee. Ik moet namelijk mijn behandelingen namelijk verantwoorden en in de context van vals positieven interpreteren. Ik krijg op een of andere wijze, het idee dat ik een completer beeld van de materie heb dan mijn criticasters.

        5. Geen RCT’s die de schadelijkheid van het weglaten van tarwe aantonen.
        Dat is correct, maar ook geen die aangeven dat het een gevaar oplevert voor een substantieel deel van de bevolking. Dan moet ik dus het algehele belang van de cliënt vooropstellen. Een van de zaken waar we eerder een discussie over hebben gevoerd, is dat ik het onverantwoord vind om mensen onnodig angst aan te jagen. Het bewijs stapelt zich op, dat dit een negatief effect heeft op de gezondheid. In de praktijk hebben mijn cliënten meer last hebben van de gevolgen van alarmnisme dan van de producten waarvoor gewaarschuwd wordt. Ik heb letterlijk cliënten huilend aan mijn bureau vanwege het idee, dat zij zichzelf en hun kinderen jarenlang vergiftigd zouden hebben. Met alle respect, maar dit soort zaken hebben voorrang, boven het kietelen van mijzelf en de lezers met spannende hypotheses.

        Het is een uitgebreide repliek die ingegeven is door de overtuiging, dat ik het belang van de cliënt moet verdedigen. Om die reden zal ik dus altijd de feiten scheiden van de spannende verhalen. Dat deze verhalen plausibel zijn, zegt me niets. Een gemiddeld filmscript voldoet namelijk aan dat criterium. En om de waarde van testimonials nog maar eens te relativeren, is het natuurlijk een interessant gegeven, dat de Jedi in het Verenigd koninkrijk een officiële religie is. Daar heb je schijnbaar minimaal tienduizend ‘testimonials’ voor nodig. Die 400 voor Wheat Belly is misschien toch niet zo fenomenaal.

        Mocht je nog echt inhoudelijke kritiek hebben op mijn repliek of op mijn artikel, dan ben ik zeker bereid om deze toe te lichten, te verdedigen en zelfs te corrigeren als dat nodig mocht zijn. Ook dat is namelijk in het belang van de cliënt.

        Dank voor aandacht en may the force be with you 😉


  9. willem zegt:

    Uitgangspunt van Chi is blijkbaar: ‘….dat ik het belang van de cliënt moet verdedigen.’ Ik denk dat er andere uitgangspunten zijn, waarvan er een is, dat Chi huiverig is voor kwakzalver te worden uitgemaakt. Hij geeft aan dat een voornaam doel is de client gerust te stellen, wanneer deze ‘huilend aan zijn bureau’ aangeeft het hele gezin chronisch vergiftigd te hebben. Een nobel streven, trooster te zijn!
    Hoewel ik aanneem, want de post is aan hem gericht, dat Melchior gaat reageren, komt in mij de vraag op: waarom eet en leeft Chi zelf ‘paleo’, maar geeft hij in zijn praktijk andere leefadviezen? Angst voor de hoon van collegea, of angst voor armoe?

  10. James zegt:

    @rnold ” een hele slimme kerel” de spijker op de kop. Ik denk dat je hem kunt vergelijken met de Unilever van paleo. Alles wat goed is voor zijn eigen toko. De opmerking van Melchior corrosive is in de roos, verdeel en heers. Zolang je wat twijfel kunt zaaien en dan wat cherry picking en dan vertelt dat het voor het best wil van de clienten is, blijf je verzekerd van een steady stream van veronruste mensen : hij lijkt het toch wel te weten.
    Spreadbury lanceerde zijn werk als een hypothese, maar dat is een understatement van jewelste. Ik heb ruim 60 van zijn referenties na getrokken, en ja ook een drie of viertal van Fasano, en kwam al heel snel tot de conclusie dat dit wel een heel werkbare hypothese is waar nog wel wat op gaat volgen.
    Die ruim 400 mensen waren niet in reactie op Davis maar op dat artikel van die dietiste. En hoe moeilijk is het om 30 pond tussen je oren te verliezen. We zullen altijd dit soort figuren blijven houden die een slaatje slaan uit ander mans problemen

    • @rnold zegt:

      Ik vind de n=1 verhalen ook altijd machtig nuttig, leuk en boeiend. En tuurlijk komt het grotendeels omdat mensen bewuster worden van voeding, daardoor minder eten en beter eten. Calorierestrictie speelt een grote rol. Zie ook het twinkie diet experiment (beetje lastig momenteel, want de fabrikant is failliet :-)).

      Ik lees ook altijd vol belangstelling de n=1 ervaringen van En daar zie je toch echt spectaculaire verhalen met foto’s voorbij komen. Hier nog eens 50 n=1-tjes:

      Maar daarin ben ik waarschijnlijk sterk op zoek naar bevestiging en ook naar heldere richtlijnen en leefregels. Daarin zit een risico dat ik oogklepjes ontwikkel.

      Zowel Melchior als Chivo helpen mij om mijn oogkleppen te verwijderen en mijn eigen paleo perspectief te verbreden!

      Melchior vanuit zijn enthousiasme, analysevermogen en grootste visie. Ben altijd onder de indruk van zijn verhalen op dit prachtige blog. Hij heeft een positief kritische blik richting de zienswijzen van bijvoorbeeld Taubes en Lustig. Maar hij helpt me ook te begrijpen waar en hoe zij te kort door de bocht vliegen! Ik vind het fijn hoe Melchior een heldere visie heeft (zijn paleo perspectief) en hoe open hij staat om zijn visie continu aan te scherpen.

      De aanvullende kritische standpunten van Chi bieden mij alleen maar extra scherpte en laten me nog beter zien hoe complex het paleo vraagstuk en hoe voorzichtig je moet zijn met conclusies en scherpe standpunten.

      Als we in Nederland nou eens een Paleo Symposium organiseren, dan staan Melchior en Chivo bovenaan mijn “gewenste sprekers” lijst!

      • Chi zegt:


        Interessante kritiek weer. Het is spijtig dat er weer niets inhoudelijks tussen zit..

        De vraag waarom ik paleo eet is interessant. Nog interessanter is dat er al suggestieve antwoorden worden verstrekt. Paleo maakt vanaf dag 1 deel uit van de Chivo opleidingen en dat is geen geheim. Ik heb ook meegewerkt aan diverse projecten en boeken over dit onderwerp. De redenen staan denk ik redelijk verwoord in een reactie, die ik geschreven heb naar Katan:

        In tegenstelling tot de claims, doe ik dus niet aan populariteitswedstrijdjes en ben ik binnen de ‘reguliere’ zorg net zo impopulair. Zo weten docenten en studenten, die van mij les hebben gehad in bijvoorbeeld reguliere diëtetiek opleidingen.

        De suggestie dat ik niet afgeschilderd wil worden als kwakzalver is dan ook lachwekkend. Een dergelijk etiket wordt namelijk niet verstrekt op basis van bewijs, maar om een discussie te mijden bij gebrek aan bewijs. Zodra je tegen de consensus ingaat (in dit gevallen granen zijn slecht), wordt er op de man gespeeld en niet op de bal. Ik denk dat jullie reacties deze stelling alleen maar onderstrepen.

        Ik wacht dan ook nog steeds met spanning af op argumenten van enige substantie. Dat zou verfrissend zijn.

        Vriendelijke groet,


  11. Huh? Ik heb nog niet eens gereageerd ;-). Sorry Chi, ik ben even druk, het is weer eens deadline day.

    Ik weet bij voorbaat dat geen enkel argument vat heeft op de Teflon jas (merk Kameleon Designs, Babylon Inc) die jij aan hebt, maar ik ga natuurlijk toch iets roepen.

    Alleen nu even niet.

  12. willem zegt:

    Je moet niet zo vreemd reageren, Chi. We menen het goed met je, maar mogen toch wel hier en daar wat losse flodders afschieten?
    Neem nu je bewering dat we proberen jou als ‘kwakzalver’ af te schilderen. Waarbij je overigens een merkwaardige definitie van dat woord geeft, maar vooruit. Ik sprak alleen als mijn veronderstelling uit dat je daar wellicht wat bang voor bent. Dat werd o.a. ingegeven door wat je zelf schetst als: ‘Ik moet namelijk mijn behandelingen namelijk verantwoorden en in de context van vals positieven interpreteren.’
    In jouw verhaal waarnaar je ons verwijst naar je standpunt t.a.v. je eigen voorkeur voor ‘paleo’ komt nergens duidelijk naar voren welke nu feitelijk de beweegredenen zijn. Je schetst slechts dat ‘paleo’ wellicht van toegevoegde waarde kan zijn op de Schijf van Vijf. Je stelt:
    ‘Daarbij gaan we echt niet voorbij aan belangrijke overwegingen, zoals het feit dat de schijf van vijf bewezen heeft een bijdrage te leveren aan de gemiddelde levensverwachting van ruim 80 jaar.’

    Waar is je bewijs?
    Je weet toch dat met name schoon water, reductie van kindersterfte, antibiotica en nog zo wat medische verworvenheden en maatschappelijke veranderingen in grote mate hebben bijgedragen aan een betere levensverwachting? En je weet toch dat, behalve die hogere gemiddelde leeftijd, ook het aantal jaren met chronische gebreken is toegenomen? Door de Schijf van Vijf?

    Misschien moet ik het anders formuleren, door de zaken om te draaien. Chi, hoe sta jij tegenover het leidend principe van ‘paleo’ dat ons genoom praktisch identiek is aan het genoom van de mens van voor 100.000 jaar? En dat dat genoom geworden is tot dat genoom, heeft leren overleven, binnen een milieu dat we in grote lijnen, ook wat voeding betreft, kunnen reconstrueren. En een mens die in bijzonder korte tijd, wat evolutie betreft, een totaal ander leef- en voedingspatroon moet ondergaan daarop haast niet anders dan moet reageren op dat voor hem totaal onbekende patroon? En dan schiet je met de Schijf van Vijf buiten de roos.

      • Fien zegt:

        Mond vol met boterkoek, James?

        • James zegt:

          Het spijt me Fien, dit is oude koeien uit de sloot halen. Geen behoefte aan. Ik hou me liever bij echte professionals zoals Lindeberg, Fasano, Spreadbury, en ik kan zo nog wel even doorgaan. En ja ik heb Melissa McEwen heel wat hoger dan deze professionele cherry picker.
          Trouwens die boterkoek is nou met butternut squash en amandel meel. En ja natuurlijk veel boter.

      • Fien zegt:

        Wat jij schrijft over “professionele cherry-picker”, dat is waar mijn “boterkoek” over gaat. Je hebt het toen niet begrepen en kennelijk nu nog niet. Jammer.

    • Chi L. Chiu zegt:

      Beste Willem,

      Dank voor je reactie.

      Ik geef helemaal geen definitie van het woord kwakzalver, ik stel zelfs dat definitie helemaal niet belangrijk is. Ik ben nl. vaker voor kwakzalver uitgemaakt, ondanks het feit dat ik heel duidelijk kan maken, dat wat ik doe ook effectief is. De enige reden van kritiek is dan dat het niet overeenkomt met de consensus, wat schijnbaar een reden is voor het etiket kwakzalver. Definities zijn dus niet noodzakelijk.

      Ik zal meteen maar even reageren op de laatste alinea. Survival of the fittest betekent dat de soort die het beste in een omgeving past, overleeft. Daaruit wordt vervolgens geconcludeerd dat dit twee richtingen uitwerkt en dat de omgeving daarom ook het beste voor ons is. We hebben alleen vele aanwijzingen dat deze consistentie er niet altijd is. Een voorbeeld zijn de konijnen in Australië, die de daar aanwezige vegetatie nog nooit hebben gegeten, maar wel floreerden. Daarom is de evolutietheorie, hypothese genererend. Dat ons genoom niet is veranderd (even ongenuanceerd) is dan een feit, maar een zonder context.

      Hoewel je de redenen niet kunt vinden, waarom ik me bezig houd met paleo, staat het er volgens mij wel duidelijk in:

      “Trouwe lezers van ons, weten dat we al jaren sympathiek staan tegenover het paleolithische voedingspatroon, maar ook dat we behouden zijn in onze uitspraken. We zijn dan ook alles, behalve blinde volgelingen. Als we de dagboeken analyseren, dan staan we steeds versteld van de synergie tussen deze voedingsvisie en wetenschappelijke aanbevelingen. Via een andere weg, met andere overwegingen, maar met het doel ferm in het vizier, blijk je ook raak te kunnen schieten. Daarom pleiten we voor reengineering, ofwel redeneren vanuit het doel in plaats van vasthouden aan tradities.”

      “Alle problemen die het Voedingscentrum constateert (RV 2009), verdwijnen als sneeuw voor de zon met dit voedingspatroon.”

      Het is alleen jammer dat Katan, toch afzag van een reactie. Had namelijk heel interessant geweest.

      Ik weet niet of de schijf van vijf leidt tot problemen. Er is zoveel meer veranderd is dan de aanvaarding van de schijf van vijf. Ik weet wel dat er nergens in staat, dat we liters frisdrank, kingsize marsen en pizza’s naar binnen moeten werken. Ik durf wel te stellen dat veel problemen verdwijnen als we een eucalorische leefstijl kunnen handhaven. Veel van de geconstateerde problemen, ook met fructose, hebben helemaal niets met fructose te maken, zelfs niet eens met de ‘onnatuurlijke’ hoeveelheid fructose. De problemen manifesteren zich uitsluitend in een hypercalorische situatie.

      • willem zegt:

        Beste Chi, of wie je ook bent,
        Dank voor de moeite en tijd om hier je ideeen weer te geven. Vooral je afsluiting is sympathiek: ‘Ik ga nu maar weer eens iets nuttigs doen…’ Het valt op dat je nogal overtuigd bent van je gelijk. Dat is fijn, maar wees daar voorzichtig mee.. Ook op je site (welgemeend advies: laat iemand je teksten daar eens taalkundig verbeteren; het stikt van de fouten) kom je echt over zoals je voorgeeft te zijn, uitbater van een kennisinstituut vitaliteit. Bekt prima!
        Wanneer je regelmatig dit boek van Melchior leest, weet je dat een van de kenmerken ervan is dat steeds weer het besef van betrekkelijkheid aan de orde komt: wat weten we nog weinig!
        Om enig houvast te hebben, wordt voeding (en meer) beschouwd in het licht van de evolutie. En ook daarvan weten we veel te weinig. Maar het weinige dat duidelijk is, bevat een bepaald patroon. Ik mag daarbij graag verwijzen naar wat o.a. Muskiet daarover allemaal geschreven heeft.
        Kun je aangeven waar Muskiet fundamenteel fout zit? Waar hij ernaast zit door aan te geven dat het eten van granen, evolutionair gezien geen menselijk voer, een chronisch lagegraadsontsteking in het lichaam veroorzaakt?
        Ik stelde hierboven ergens dat de Schijf van Vijf niet als reden mag worden genoemd dat we gemiddeld zo rond de 80 jaar worden, maar dat dat komt door andere verworvenheden. Dat betekent niet dat die Schijf geen goede aanwijzingen bevat, maar wel dat deze door de pyramidale opbouw ervan als contraproductief werkt. Het fundament deugt niet! En dat in een omgeving waar allerlei (kwalijke) voedingsmiddelen voor het grijpen liggen mensen daardoor in verlegenheid worden gebracht door de werking van het brein, pleit voor regulering, maar daar had ik het al veel vaker over.
        Ik weet niet, beste Chi, of je je kostbare tijd nog heb verspild aan het lezen van deze onbenullige bijdrage, maar zo ja, dank. Zo nee, dan heb je niets gemist.
        Fijn weekeinde gewenst.

        Survival of the fittest betekent dat de soort die het beste in een omgeving past, overleeft.

        • James zegt:

          “..dan heb je niets gemist…” Je moet je zelf nooit weg gooien Willem, dat doen anderen wel 🙂 Had even geen boterkoek (nu met butternut squash) in de mond, maar moet nou toch weer aan het werk.

      • willem zegt:

        Neem me niet kwalijk. Las nu pas de definitie van ‘survival of the fittest’, zoals Chi die gaf. Wou daarop in gaan door aan te geven dat er meer verklaringen voor deze uitdrukking zijn (productieve periode, en zo), maar ben er te laat mee.

    • Fien zegt:

      Willem en James. Jullie hebben het over iemand in de derde persoon, waarmee je al een duidelijke boodschap afgeeft, en ik vind het verbijsterend dat jullie alletwee iemands professionele integriteit zonder enige grond in twijfel trekken.

      Ik heb het boek van Davis gelezen omdat het hier genoemd werd en ik vond het slecht. Als LEEK en argeloze, geinteresseerde lezer (het woord LEEK onderstreept en in vet) zag ik allerlei tegenstrijdige adviezen en ongeloofwaardige verhalen.

      • Fien schrijft: “Ik heb het boek van Davis gelezen omdat het hier genoemd werd en ik vond het slecht. Als LEEK en argeloze, geinteresseerde lezer (het woord LEEK onderstreept en in vet) zag ik allerlei tegenstrijdige adviezen en ongeloofwaardige verhalen.”

        En dat is hier van meet af aan gemeld… Ik heb destijds in de eerste berichten over Wheat Belly onmiddellijk gelinkt naar de kritische analyses van Emily Deans en Melissa McEwen. Die laatste wordt overigens in de beschouwing over paleo op de site van Chi terloops weggezet als typische paleo-idioot die niets begrijpt van evolutie. Hetgeen bespottelijk is.

      • Chi L. Chiu zegt:

        Ach Melchior,

        Je leest wat je wilt lezen. Ik heb zeer veel respect voor Melissa McEwen en ik geef een indruk van het artikel. Maar ik ben blij dat je iets gevonden hebt om op te schieten. Ik had toch wel iets meer van je verwacht 😉

        • Ik zit nog te werken, maar kon het niet laten ;-). Overigens zeik je Melissa wel degelijk af (Teflon).

          Degelijk materiaal:

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          354. Cuatrecasas, P.&Tell, G.P. (1973) Insulin-like activity of concanavalin A and wheat germ agglutinin – direct interactions with insulin receptors. Proc Natl Acad Sci USA 70, 485–9.

          503. Evans, W.J. (1995) What is sarcopenia? J Gerontol A Biol Sci Med Sci 50 Spec No, 5–8.

          544. Freed, D.L.J. (1991) Lectins in food: their importance in health and disease. J Nutr Med 2, 45–64.

          705. Hedo, J.A., Harrison, L.C. & Roth, J. (1981) Binding of insulin receptors to lectins: evidence for common carbohydrate determinants on several membrane receptors. Biochemistry
          20, 3385–93.

          1073. Livingston, J.N.&Purvis, B.J. (1981) The effects of wheat germ agglutinin on the adipocyte insulin receptor. Biochim Biophys Acta 678, 194–201

          1348. Oliveira, J.T.A., Pusztai, A. & Grant, G. (1988) Changes in organs and tissues induced by feeding of purified kidney bean (Phaseolus vulgaris) lectins. Nutr Res 8, 943–7

          1459. Purrello, F., Burnham, D.B. & Goldfine, I.D. (1983) Insulin receptor antiserum and plant lectins mimic the direct effects of insulin on nuclear envelope phosphorylation. Science 221, 462–4.

          1460. Pusztai, A. (1993) Dietary lectins are metabolic signals for the gut and modulate immune and hormone functions. Eur J Clin Nutr 47, 691–9.

          1461. Pusztai, A., Greer, F.&Grant, G. (1989) Specific uptake of dietary lectins into the systemic circulation of rats. Biochem Soc Trans 17, 481–2.

          1640. Shechter, Y. (1983) Bound lectins that mimic insulin produce persistent insulin-like activities. Endocrinology 113, 1921–6.

          1641. Shechter, Y. & Sela, B.A. (1981) Insulin-like effects of wax bean agglutinin in rat adipocytes. Biochem Biophys Res Commun 98, 367–73.

          1848. Van Damme, E.J.M., Peumans, W.J., Pusztai, A. & Bardocz, S. (1998) Handbook of plant lectins: properties and biomedical applications. John Wiley, New York.

          1986. Yevdokimova, N.Y. & Yefimov, A.S. (2001) Effects of wheat germ agglutinin and concanavalin A on the accumulation of glycosaminoglycans in pericellular matrix of human dermal fibroblasts. A comparison with insulin. Acta Biochim Pol 48, 563–72.

          1900. Wang, X.Y., Bergdahl, K., Heijbel, A., Liljebris, C. & Bleasdale, J.E. (2001) Analysis of in vitro interactions of protein tyrosine phosphatase 1B with insulin receptors. Mol Cell Endocrinol 173, 109–20.

        • Ik lees wat ik wil lezen? Je schamptert over onder anderen McEwen:

          Halfnaakt rondrennen

          Katan schampert over een groep enthousiastelingen die het nodig vindt om, ’s nachts bij vrieskou, met ontbloot bovenlijf en blote voeten door New York te rennen. Het artikel uit de New York Times laat duidelijk zien, dat deze mensen het vooral als leefstijl zien en het artikel biedt ook weinig wetenschappelijke onderbouwing.

          Het trio dat door de New York Times werd geinterviewd over hun caveman leefstijl.

          Daarnaast haalt Katan nog een groep wetenschappers aan, die zich bezighoudt met paleolithische eetpatronen, maar gaat er niet dieper op in. Het mag duidelijk zijn dat deze wetenschappers van een hele andere orde zijn, dan de New Yorkse nachtbrakers. Deze gezaghebbende en multidisciplinaire groep stelt dat het exacte eetpatroon van onze voorouders niet geheel duidelijk is, zoals ook Katan aangeeft.

      • Chi L. Chiu zegt:

        En Fien, dank voor het benoemen van wat hier overduidelijk gebeurd. Maar zolang er dialoog is, is er hoop 😉

      • Chi L. Chiu zegt:


        Het wordt een welles-nietes spel, maar als je wilt spelen:

        ” Het artikel uit de New York Times laat duidelijk zien, dat deze mensen het vooral als leefstijl zien en het artikel biedt ook weinig wetenschappelijke onderbouwing.”

        Ik refereer dus wat het artikel voor indruk geeft.

        En hoewel ik het kan waarderen dat je een indrukwekkende lijst met literatuurreferenties presenteert. Het zou het misschien handig zijn om te beginnen met een literatuurreferentie waaruit blijkt dat WGA ook na het bakken van het brood actief blijft. Dat zou interessant zijn, voordat je begint over WGA interacties met insuline die alleen in vitro plaatsvinden.

        • O, stond die er niet bij? Excuses.

          Effects of wheat germ agglutinin on human gastrointestinal epithelium: insights from an experimental model of immune/epithelial cell interaction.

          Wheat germ agglutinin (WGA) is a plant protein that binds specifically to sugars expressed, among many others, by human gastrointestinal epithelial and immune cells. WGA is a toxic compound and an anti-nutritional factor, but recent works have shown that it may have potential as an anti-tumor drug and as a carrier for oral drugs.

          To quantitate the toxicity threshold for WGA on normal epithelial cells we previously investigated the effects of the lectin on differentiated Caco2 cells, and showed that in the micromolar range of concentrations WGA could alter the integrity of the epithelium layer and increase its permeability to both mannitol and dextran. WGA was shown to be uptaken by Caco2 cells and only approximately 0.1% molecules were observed to cross the epithelium layer by transcytosis. Here we show that at nanomolar concentrations WGA is unexpectedly bioactive on immune cells.

          The supernatants of WGA-stimulated peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMC) can alter the integrity of the epithelium layer when administered to the basolateral side of differentiated Caco2 cells and the effects can be partially inhibited by monoclonal antibodies against IL1, IL6 and IL8.

          At nanomolar concentrations WGA stimulates the synthesis of pro-inflammatory cytokines and thus the biological activity of WGA should be reconsidered by taking into account the effects of WGA on the immune system at the gastrointestinal interface. These results shed new light onto the molecular mechanisms underlying the onset of gastrointestinal disorders observed in vivo upon dietary intake of wheat-based foods.

          The question on whether and to which extent WGA is bioactive on human gastrointestinal epithelium is important for at least two reasons. On one hand, WGA is a dietary molecule being a component of wheat germ, wheat flour, and its derivatives. Due to its relative stability at low pH, high temperatures and proteolytic digestion it can therefore interact with enterocytes as a consequence of the normal nutrition. Previous work with rats has demonstrated that WGA is an anti-nutritional factor when administered at high doses. However, 1. the pathophysiological mechanisms underlying the onset of observed gastrointestinal disorders have not been elucidated thus far and 2. it is difficult to conclude on WGA toxicity as a component of nutrients since in a real meal the lectin would not be ingested pure but as a component of a complex matrix which is further transformed by technological processing of wheat products into edible food…

          …The evaluation of the effects of WGA on human gastrointestinal cells, however, should take into account the complexity of real tissues that are well-known to include cells of the immune system. Immune and epithelial cells cross-talk by means of cytokines that are expressed by both cell compartments and constitute a network that concurs to regulate the physiology of the gut. For example, the maintenance of local homeostasis in the intestinal mucosa to enteric bacteria and their antigens requires a fine-tuned balance between immune activation and regulation, a process that, if impaired, may lead to intestinal inflammation.

          …[I]mmune cells are known to react to very low concentrations of foreign molecules, plant proteins included…

          If the results of our previous work are also taken into consideration, the present data allow one to sketch the following portrait for lectin bioactivity on gastrointestinal epithelia: WGA interacts with enterocytes and is accumulated intracellularly. At micromolar concentrations the integrity of the epithelium layer starts to relax as a consequence of direct effects of WGA on the apical membrane of the enterocytes thus allowing small molecules to cross the layer. At this stage WGA also crosses the epithelium layer probably by transcytosis. WGA concentration in the basolateral side of the epithelium is low, in the nanomolar range. At these concentrations, however, WGA can stimulate the biosynthesis of pro-inflammatory cytokines, and of other not yet identified molecular factors, by immune cells, though at a variable extent depending on the individual background. Cytokines, in turn, concur to alter the integrity of the epithelium layer itself. A sort of positive feedback might therefore be established among WGA, epithelial cells and immune cells and this might lead to further increase the effects of the lectin on gastrointestinal epithelia…

          …Overall, these findings suggest that WGA can interact with immune cells at the gastrointestinal interface in vivo and tune their functions.

          In conclusion, our results raise concerns on the use of WGA as a carrier of oral drugs and shed new light onto the pathophysiological mechanisms of WGA toxicity shown in vivo and more generally on the initiation of gastrointestinal disorders by wheat-based foods.

      • Chi L. Chiu zegt:


        Je wilt niet zeggen dat ze van een andere orde zijn? Dat ze ook onderzoek doen, dat ze gepromoveerd zijn, peerreviewed publiceren, etc? Kom op, ben je nu werkelijk zo wanhopig?

        Als je geen zin hebt in de discussie of gewoon geen argumenten hebt, stop er dan gewoon mee. Het begint een beetje triest te worden.

      • Chi L. Chiu zegt:


        De WGA die actief is na verhitting zoals dat bij brood plaatsvindt. Niet een farmaceutisch experiment, waarbij ze geisoleerde WGA inzetten om bijvoorbeeld insuline door de darmwand te transporteren.

      • Chi L. Chiu zegt:

        Laat ik afsluiten met een experiment, waarin pasta is gekookt en waarna de WGA niet meer detecteerbaar bleek!

        Matuccia A (2004), Venerib, G, Pellegrinab CD, e.a. Temperature-dependent decay of wheat germ agglutinin activity and its implications for food processing and analysis. Volume 15, Issue 5, July 2004, Pages 391–395

        Tenzij je met experimentele data komt, waaruit blijkt dat WGA wel actief is na het koken, is een verdere discussie (van wat geïsoleerde WGA doet) weinig zinvol.

        Laat ik daarnaast nog iedereen erop wijzen dat het artikel dat ik geschreven heb, een deel 1 is. Er volgt nog meer en het zou zomaar in jullie straatje kunnen passen, maar zoals je nu wel door hebt, vind ik dat volstrekt oninteressant.

        Als laatste wil ik nog even opmerken dat je teflon verwart met titanium 😉

        • Hoi Chi,

          Pusztai et al documenteerden dat WGA hittestabiel is, jouw Italianen toonden aan dat er bij koken weinig van overblijft. Mat Lalonde stipte het aan op AHS 2011, drukte zijn gehoor op het hart dit in discussies met sceptische collega’s altijd meteen te noemen voor zij het kunnen doen, en sloot zijn lezing vervolgens af met het advies: loop met een grote boog om tarweproducten heen ;-). In gaar gekookte pasta zit geen WGA meer, of preciezer, je zou er 1,5 kilo van moeten eten voor je de 40 micromol binnenkrijgt die de goed gedocumenteerde systemische ellende veroorzaakt (insulin mimetic, zonuline-activator, ontstekingstrigger…). Hoe kan het dat Pusztai et al waarnamen dat deze verneukeratieve glycoproteïne hittestabiel is? Want dat deden ze. Mogelijk omdat ze in tegenstelling tot de uitgekookte Italianen geen water gebruikten. Veel tarweproducten in onze neolithische voedselketen worden vervaardigd zonder dat er noemenswaardige hoeveelheden water aan te pas komen. Ik zou graag willen weten hoe veel WGA er in een snee brood zit, of in een pizza, of in de geplette tarwevlokken in zo’n zonnig en gezond muesliontbijt. Merkwaardig genoeg vind ik daar niets over. Jij wel? Kan Wouter de Heij het anders misschien even uitzoeken? Tarwekiemen en de daaruit geperste olie zitten er in elk geval tjokvol mee. Naar de natuurwinkel, jongens! Rijk aan vitamine E (en als bonus de beste manier om forse vasculitis te triggeren). In een poging jouw afgewogen, volwassen, evenwichtige, van hysterie en alarmisme gespeende, van de stem der rede doordrenkte ‘Gaat u toch rustig slapen’ boodschap voor mijn 6 lezers in een eerlijk perspectief te plaatsen nog even een stukje Lindeberg:

          There are many indications that cereals and beans affect glucose metabolism by means of their glycoproteins. The best studied of these is wheat lectin (WGA), a highly stable substance which escapes digestion in the gastrointestinal tract1848. Thus, it passes the gut barrier and enters the bloodstream intact1461, and thereafter it binds to several hormone receptors including the insulin receptors and other tyrosine kinase receptors (the IGF-1 and EGF receptors)1900. The binding of wheat lectin to the insulin receptor is strong and long-lasting with high molecular efficiency, suggesting that it may hinder insulin to exert its effects for many hours353,354,705,1073,1459,1640,1641. Hence, it is theoretically capable of causing insulin resistance. Further, wheat lectin increases glycolysis (metabolic breakdown of glucose) 1986 as well as fat storage544, but in contrast to insulin, which has the same effects, it does not seem to stimulate protein synthesis1460, which is relevant since loss of muscle mass (sarcopenia) has been suggested to worsen insulin sensitivity503. Rats that were fed Turkish beans (Phaseolus vulgaris) quickly lost 30% of their skeletal muscle mass, which is thought to be an effect of its lectin, phaseolus vulgaris agglutinin (PHA)1348

      • willem zegt:

        Beste Fien. Dat ik het over Chi heb in de derde persoon (althans in de eerste reactie) is absoluut niet om hem te diskwalificeren, of op welke andere wijze ook achter te stellen. Wie ben ik om dat te doen. Wellicht komt die afstandelijke reactie, onbewust, want ik koos daar niet met opzet voor, door eerdere discussies hier met Chi. Lees die nog maar eens na, als je ze vindt tenminste (ben niet zo goed in die dingen).
        Waaruit je meent te moeten concluderen dat ik zijn ‘ professionele integriteit zonder enige grond in twijfel trek’, weet ik niet. Ik meen slechts dat Chi, met een stortvloed aan handig gekozen oneliners en verwijzingen, makkelijk de argeloze lezer voor zich wint, zonder de grote verbanden aan te geven.

      • Fien zegt:

        Willem. Ik ken eerdere discussies met Chi L. Chiu niet en kan die ook niet vinden met deze zoekterm. En, zoals te verwachten, levert de simpele zoekterm Chi een gigantische hoeveelheid treffers op, mede dankzij Mel-CHI-or.

        Wat betreft het in twijfel trekken van zijn professionele integriteit: lees je eigen postje nog eens door, zou ik zeggen. Hint: angst voor armoe, angst voor collegae.

      • Chi L. Chiu zegt:


        Ik zou zeker aanraden om de vorige discussie die over fructose gaat, eens na te lezen en ontdek een patroon. Een hele hoop suggestieve flauwekul als je roept dat het belang van de cliënt en bewijs belangrijk is.

        Vervolgens allerlei non-argumenten, die ik weerleg en waarvan Melchior mij ook gelijk geeft. Daarvoor verdient hij mijn respect. Maar schijnbaar toch een reden voor sommigen om deze discussie te openen met suggestieve aantijgingen.

        Dus graag, zoek het even op en lees het aandachtig door. Heb overigens nog steeds niet gehoord wat er niet klopt aan het artikel, dat aanleiding gaf tot deze discussie. Stel je voor 😉

        Dus nogmaals dank en fijne avond allemaal, ik ga nu maar iets nuttigs doen.


    • Otto zegt:

      Ik denk dat de meeste problemen voortkomen doordat mensen níet de schijf van vijf volgen, maar een koekjes/wit of bruinbrood/weinig groente/teveel transvetzuren/suikerrijk-dieet, maw. gewoonweg te weinig goede voedingsstoffen om een beetje normaal te kunnen leven. Als je de statistieken ziet hoe weinig mensen daadwerkelijk fatsoenlijk eten met veel groente, fruit en vis ( ), dan denk ik dat dáár nog het grootste gezondheidsvoordeel te behalen moet zijn; het verschil tussen schijf van vijf en paleo is dan hoogstens eentje van ‘kun je met (misschien met wat problemen) fluitend oud worden’ en ‘optimale gezondheid bij een lang leven’.

      Eén van de voordelen van paleo is dat je de nutteloze voedingsmiddelen eruit gooit en bijna automatisch vervangt door voeding met veel voedingswaarde; dat komt ook door de ‘beperking’ die je opgelegd wordt waardoor de standaard koekjes, taart en chips buiten de boot vallen. Persoonlijk vind ik die paar regels/principes fijn, en ik kan daar ook volledig achter staan. Maar je kunt ook een heel end komen als je die koek/snoep/taart/witbrood standaard al laat liggen en vervangt door groente en fruit. Dan heb je al zo’n gezondheidsbuffer gecreëerd dat je redelijk kunt compenseren voor de gebreken van de schijf van vijf.

  13. George zegt:

    @Chi: Uitspraken zoals:”Maar ik ben blij dat je iets gevonden hebt om op te schieten. Ik had toch wel iets meer van je verwacht ” en “Kom op, ben je nu werkelijk zo wanhopig?” en “Het begint een beetje triest te worden” duiden op dat je communiceert op betrekkingsniveau (zie o.a. Watzlawick), i.t.t. communiceren op inhoudsniveau.

    Dat gedrag laat duidelijk zien dat je niet alleen inhoudelijk wilt/kan argumenteren, meestal gebeurt dit als iemand zich persoonlijk aangevallen voelt, maar die pijn niet wil voelen en daarom terug slaat op persoonlijk/betrekkingsniveau.

    Je bekritiseert heel vaak artikelen vanuit strikt wetenschappelijk onderzoek en dat waardeer ik ook aan je artikelen: i.p.v. subjectieve meningen en/of slecht uitgevoerde wetenschappelijke onderzoeken, kom je met korrekt uitgevoerde onderzoeksresultaten. Dat houdt mij in ieder geval scherp en doet mij kritisch kijken naar meningen van o.a. dr. Lustig, ook al heeft hij meer dan een miljoen hits en ook al wordt hij door de hele “Paleowereld” omarmd.

    Daarom verbaast me nogmaals dat je opeens op betrekkingsniveau reageert en dat betekent dat je (onbewust?) persoonlijk belang hebt bij je meningen, anders zou je dus niet met “valse macht” reageren.

    Niet dat dat erg is, want niemand is perfect en bij iedereen is wel wat mis gegaan in zijn jeugd, maar het lijkt me wel belangrijk dat iemand je wijst op die inconsistentie.

    Ruud van Nistelrooy was in ieder geval blij dat hij – ook al was hij topvoetballer – in zijn eigen dorp en kroeg heel normaal behandeld werd en daardoor o.a. met zijn beide voeten op de grond bleef….

  14. riesjart zegt:

    Wat een discussie, het valt me op dat voor Chi de waarheid wordt gevonden in de gedocumenteerde resultaten van onderzoek, liefst een RCT natuurlijk! Voor anderen, waaronder ikzelf, bestaat er meer; gloort er aan de horizon wat hoop. Ook besef ik wat de beperkingen zijn in de huidige stand van de wetenschap. Daarnaast wordt het wetenschappelijk onderzoekslandschap bepaald door zakelijke motieven en kan daardoor wat anders gekleurd zijn en niet perse realistisch.

  15. En hier is de jongste lezing van de vermaledijde cardioloog. Hij mag één en ander dan nogal ongenuanceerd en met de nodige bombarie voor het voetlicht brengen, het effect – namelijk dat mensen tarweproducten uit hun leven bannen en vervolgens gezondheidsverbeteringen van het kaliber Pak Uw Bed Op En Wandel ervaren – is er niet minder om.

  16. Mariet Hoen zegt:

    Chi, volgens mijn bescheiden mening zijn er twee mogelijkheden:
    De eerste mogelijkheid is dat je niet volgens paleo eet, of heel soft, soft, soft paleo en dan begrijp ik meteen dat je paleo niet uitrolt over je klanten. Heel congruent !

    De tweede mogelijkheid is dat je wel volgens de paleo inzichten eet, al bijna 14 jaar. Als dat zo is en je dat ook al 14 jaar volhoudt moet dit jou wel heel veel gezondheids voordelen opleveren, anders was er je allang mee opgehouden.
    Dus als je dat doet (paleo), en dat beweer je, dan moet een een andere reden zijn waarom je dat niet of nauwelijks met je klanten deelt. Het enigste wat ik kan bedenken is geldgewin
    Waarom ik dat denk ? Omdat ik nu 9 mnd. paleo eet en in mijn geval voorlopig, een HFLC versie, en ik na maar ongeveer 5 mnd. zoveel gezondheids voordelen ondervond, dat je wel begrijpt dat ik niet lang klant was gebleven bij jou of bij een van je leerlingen. Sterker nog ik heb al mijn informatie verkregen hier, FB, twitter en het web, gratis en voor niks.

    Ik hoop dat de eerste reden van toepassing is, want bij de tweede reden zou ik je erg vals vinden.

    Als ik kijk naar je website en wat je allemaal twittert, dan zie ik een slim businessconcept, waar natuurlijk niks mis mee is. Het concept heeft veel weg van de verzekeringsbranche, waarin voor relatief kleine bedragen de angst voor risico’s worden afgedekt. De wet van de kleine getallen levert de verzekeraars heel veel gewin op.
    De parallel die ik trek heeft te maken met jouw methode om mensen op te leiden en ze dan te laten abonneren op Vitanet, ä raison van 28 € per maand om hun kennis door jou instituut uptodate te houden.
    Een relatief een klein bedrag, maar bij elkaar opgeteld is er veel geld te verdienen.
    Geld verdienen, er is niets mis mee. Maar om nou te doen alsof het bijna een religieuze missie is wel een beetje schijnheilig.

    Jouw (oud) leerlingen kunnen natuurlijk ook info krijgen op internet, maar door het allemaal heel ingewikkeld te doen lijken en het risicogevoel te voeden kun je als ‘autoriteit’ de klanten aan je binden. Weer een parallel met de verzekeringsbranche.

    • James zegt:

      I rest my case! Daarom noemt Melchior wat hij doet corrosive. Hij noemt zichzelf titanium. Heel treffend koud en ongevoelig.

      • Titanium geeft in tegenstelling tot Teflon geen giftige dampen af als je er een hete vlam op richt.

        • James zegt:

          Jemig! dat was ik helemaal vergeten, daarom gebruiken we al een tijdje gietijzer en geemailleerd. Een en ander bewijst weer eens dat we hier toch er goed aan doen om te blijven komen met argumenten voor en tegen, en liefst zoveel mogelijk wetenschappelijke onderbouwing. Ik kan Willem wel van zeuren beschuldigen als hij eens door dramt, maar in feite heeft hij natuurlijk gelijk. Met dit soort figuren dreigt de zaak scheef getrokken te worden door zijstraten. Davis heeft iets bereikt waar we allemaal blij mee kunnen zijn. Joe Mercola is nou praktisch helemaal paleo al zal hij het woord amper gebruiken. Daarnaast blijft hij hameren op duurzaam en de mono culturen graan zijn niet duurbaar. Ga ng een hele moeilijke discussie tegemoet volgend week als we onze jaar vergadering van de National Farmers Union hebben. De president is een grote graan boer die praat over sustainable agriculture !

  17. Mariet Hoen zegt:

    In het kader van: Je werkt voor de graanlobby en je roept eens wat…
    vond ik deze hartekreet wel grappig, beetje in de geest van Menno, de bakker…

  18. Alex zegt:

    The Dietary Intake of Wheat and other Cereal Grains and Their Role in Inflammation van Karin de Punder en Leo Pruimboom.

  19. Henriette Das zegt:

    Ik weet even niet waar dit te plaatsen, maar zocht naar Monsanto en kreeg deze blog, dus daarom hier maar. 25 mei is er globaal protest tegen Monsanto. Mij lijkt dat lezers van deze blog weten waar Monsanto mee bezig is en daar niet gelukkig van worden. Kom allemaal! Via facebook zag ik ongeveer 1000 aanmeldingen, dat moeten er meer worden! Spread the word please!

  20. Mariet Hoen zegt:

    Voor de Feest boekers, link naar ’t evenement.
    Start 14.00 uur, verzamelen vanaf 13.00 uur gebouw Wur Duivendaal, Wageningen

  21. Er blijkt ook een demonstratie in Amsterdam en Den Haag te komen, tot nu toe zo’n 2000 aanmeldingen. Lees meer: Graag delen met zoveel mogelijk mensen?

  22. duidelijke docu: De wereld volgens Monsanto

  23. James Pot zegt:

    Melchior mijn reacties komen in de spam bak terecht. Ik word steeds opnieuw gevraagd in te loggen en dan niks white page. Helaas geen tijd om dat uit te zoeken.

  24. James Pot zegt:

    Dit was de reaktie op Henriëtte:
    Als je nou ook nog vertelt dat je korfbalt Henriëtte, kan je bij mij nooit meer kwaad.
    Misschien mag het wel twee keer gezegd worden.
    Heb helaas helemaal geen tijd voor de laptop. Even snel onder de koffie break. We zijn al jaren bezig met Monsanto en het leek van een hopeloze strijd, maar ik begin wat licht te zien. Helaas kost het nog steeds aan tientallen mensen in India het leven (per dag) tot zelfmoord gedreven door Monsanto (GM cotton en misoogsten door dat alle GM produkten veel meer water nodig hebben.

    • In de documentaire vertellen Indiërs dat er in een deelstaat alleen al 3 zelfmoorden per dag zijn door Monsanto.
      In Canada zijn er aanstaande zaterdag ook veel marsen tegen Monsanto.
      Op de link die Mariet geeft staan ook de bedrijven die de genetisch gemanipuleerde producten van Monsanto gebruiken. Het wekt geen verbazing dat daar onze geliefde Unilever bij staat…..

      (Ik korfbal niet James, Mijn vader korfbalde wel…is dat ook goed om niet meer kwaad te kunnen bij je? Zo kwam hij via de korfbalvereniging in het verzet terecht.)

      • James Pot zegt:

        Prima! Zo vader zo dochter. Een eer om hier een dochter van Henk Das te ontmoeten. Was nog te jong om te weten wat die grote mensen allemaal deden. Een dreumes van 4 jaar maar iets kwam wel over en is mijn hele leven bij gebleven. De hele familie was er bij betrokken, maar de allerfelste was mijn oom Bertus uit Lutten. En ik ging naar de school met kinderen van gefusilleerde verzetsstrijders. We groeiden op met de namen van Jonkers en de Munnink.
        Hebben een paar weken geleden geprotesteerd bij de plaatselijke volksvertegenwoordiger tegen de invoering van GM alfalfa.
        Blij dat The World according to Monsanto vertaald is in het NL.
        Jeffrey Smith voert al jarenlang een strijd tegen dit monster gebeuren

  25. Ik kan niet onder de laatste reactie van James reageren, en het is volkomen off topic, maar James; had je van mijn vader gehoord of heb je hem ge-googled? Dat houd me dan weer bezig.. en hoe kom je op korfbal?
    Intussen begin ik te borrelen van frustratie: waarom reageren mensen wel op een stomme mededeling als: de geërfde glazen tafel van mijn moeder is tijdens het transport gebroken.. en niet op bijvoorbeeld:

    • James Pot zegt:

      Dat was voor mij een bijna natuurlijke reactie. Ik ben op de een of andere manier mijn hele leven ‘achtervolgd” door verzets belevenissen, personen. Misschien omdat ik er als dreumes midden in zat. Als we in NL zijn komen we binnen via de Hannie Schaft weg. Verschillenden uit naaste omgeving werden in Avereest gefusilleerd . Thuis was altijd een komen en gaan. Onderduikers die mee hielpen op de boerderij. En daar tussen liep een oom die ‘controleur’ was en ‘voor de Duitsers werkte’. Dus wanneer jij verzet aantekent omdat het in je genen zit word ik vanzelf nieuwsgierig en Henk Das was makkelijk te vinden. Christelijke korfbal vereniging. Nice touch.
      Verzet zit deze familie in het bloed. Mag je best trots op zijn, al doe je het gewoon omdat je niet anders kunt. Onrecht is onrecht en het maakt niet uit wat voor jasje dat het aan heeft. Voedings deskundigen die hun positie en credentials misbruiken staan voor mij in hetzelfde boekje als de land verraders.

  26. Henriette Das zegt:

    En zo sluipt Monsanto via UNILEVER Afrika binnen:

    Unilever en de Spar gaan Afrika voeden

    Het kabinet wil Nederlandse bedrijven helpen Afrika te veroveren door hulp aan handel te koppelen Een gedurfd plan, dat met scepsis is ontvangen Afrikanen hebben nu eenmaal weinig geld

    Wie geld wil verdienen moet in Afrika zijn. Daar worden Nederlandse bedrijven zich langzaamaan bewust van. Van de tien snelst groeiende economieën ter wereld, liggen er zes in Afrika.

    Bedrijven zien dat er kansen liggen, maar twijfelen wanneer ze de stap zullen wagen. De risico’s zijn groot. Banken zijn terughoudend in het verstrekken van leningen, waardoor de rente hoog is. En in veel landen functioneert de markt niet naar behoren of moet die zelfs nog gecreëerd worden.

    Minister Lilianne Ploumen (Ontwikkelingssamenwerking en Buitenlandse Handel, PvdA) wil bedrijven helpen om Afrika te veroveren door handel te koppelen aan hulp. Een gedurfde combinatie, die zowel door hulporganisaties als werkgeversorganisiaties met scepsis werd ontvangen.

    Farah Karimi, directeur van Oxfam Novib, concludeerde dat Ploumen „de markt centraal stelt en niet langer de mensen”. „Een weeffout”, oordeelde VNO-NCW voorzitter Bernard Wientjes.

    Bij de presentatie van het Amsterdam Initiative against Malnutrician (AIM) vorige week in Den Haag waren heel andere geluiden te horen. De zaal van het ministerie van Buitenlandse Zaken was gevuld met zakenlieden en ontwikkelingswerkers, die het nu eens roerend met elkaar eens waren. „Ambitieus” en „innovatief” waren woorden die veelvuldig vielen. Bedrijfsleven was geen scheldwoord meer, maar een onmisbaar ingrediënt voor een succesvol project.

    Het AIM is een project zoals Ploumen het graag ziet. Er zijn 25 partijen bij betrokken: bedrijven (Unilever, DSM, AkzoNobel, Spar, Rijk Zwaan, Rabobank), hulporganisaties (ICCO, Hivos, SNV, GAIN), de Keniaanse overheid en Afrikaanse bedrijven (Phillips Healthcare Services, Africa Bio Medica, Kinangop).

    Het doel is dat in 2015 100 miljoen mensen in Afrika niet meer lijden aan ondervoeding. Om dit te bereiken, zijn tien afzonderlijke projecten bedacht in Kenia en Zuid-Afrika, van het introduceren van een nieuw merk drinkwater tot het verrijken van populaire, lokale snacks met vitaminen en mineralen. Samen omvatten ze de hele voedselketen, van de boer tot de supermarkt. Maar hoewel het doel ideëel is, doen de bedrijven mee uit commerciële motieven.

    „De projecten zijn gericht op mensen met weinig geld”, zegt Marc van Ameringen, directeur van GAIN, die het project coördineert. „Veel bedrijven zagen niet hoe die projecten winstgevend konden worden. Hoe zorg je dat producten betaalbaar zijn als de investeringskosten zo hoog zijn? Kleine projecten waren in het verleden wel succesvol, maar opschalen was een groot probleem.”

    De oplossing van het AIM is samenwerking. Zo kan het risico gespreid en kennis gedeeld worden. Hulporganisaties en instellingen zoals Wageningen Universiteit beschikken over veel kennis. Daar kunnen bedrijven gebruik van maken. Zo wil de Spar meer groente van boeren afnemen, maar die moeten dan wel meer produceren. Hier kunnen de landbouwexperts bij helpen.

    Het budget bedraagt 25 miljoen euro. De helft komt van het ministerie, de rest van de bedrijven zelf. Dit geld komt in een investeringsfonds, te beheren door de Rabobank Foundation. Projecten krijgen geen subsidie, maar een lening tegen gunstige rente. „Wij trekken investeerders aan, zodat projecten niet ophouden als de financiering stopt”, zegt Marianne van Duin van Rabobank. „We kijken mee met de projecten en geven in een vroeg stadium aan waar de hiaten zitten. En we kijken mee. Als een project over drie jaar niet uit de pilotfase is, is het niet rendabel.”

    Het moeilijkste wordt het om een nieuwe groep consumenten aan te spreken die weinig te besteden heeft. Het succes van microkrediet en mobiele telefonie in Afrika bewijst dat dit mogelijk is. „Dit project leert ons hoe we een product moeten introduceren bij deze doelgroep”, zegt Robert van der Heuvel, hoofd nieuwe bedrijfsontwikkeling bij DSM. „Ik heb veel projecten zien mislukken doordat er door subsidies geen sprake was van een marktprijs. Commercie is essentieel.”

    Spar in Afrika: supermarkten

    Rijk Zwaan is gespecialiseerd in groentezaden. In een veredelingsstation in Tanzania ontwikkelt het bedrijf betere rassen zodat de opbrengst per hectare omhooggaat, maar daar is nu geen markt voor. Afrikaanse boeren produceren nu weinig en hebben de kennis niet om betere zaden te gebruiken. Het AIM is interessant omdat er hulporganisaties meedoen die 20.000 telers kunnen bereiken en opleiden. Rijk Zwaan wil er als eerste bij zijn als er een markt ontstaat.

    Spar in Afrika: supermarkten

    Veel Afrikanen eten voedsel met weinig voedingsstoffen. Kinderen lopen hier een groeiachterstand op en hun hersenen ontwikkelen zich minder. Chemiebedrijf DSM gaat goedkope melk en yoghurt (en later ook populaire snacks van lokale merken) verrijken met vitaminen en mineralen, want kinderen onder de vijf consumeren veel melkproducten. Die zijn verkrijgbaar via scholen en klinieken. In Ethiopië wordt een lab opgezet om producten op voedingsstoffen te controleren.

    Spar in Afrika: supermarkten

    Slechte kwaliteit water zorgt voor ziektes als diarree. Unilever brengt in Kenia een nieuw merk drinkwater op de markt van goede kwaliteit. Dit is nu voor veel mensen te duur, mede omdat het geld kost om het thuis te laten bezorgen. Daarom zal het verkocht worden in buurtkiosken. Unilever wil via het water een relatie opbouwen met een nieuwe groep relatief arme consumenten. Het heeft veel marktonderzoek gedaan. Zo kan het later ook andere gezondheidsproducten verkopen.

    Spar in Afrika: supermarkten

    Met 1.000 winkels is Spar een van de grootste supermarktketens van Afrika. Winkels staan vooral op het platteland en bereiken dus de armsten, ideaal voor het AIM. Opslagplaatsen liggen soms zo ver dat Spar is begonnen om groenten bij lokale boeren te kopen. Maar het bedrijf wil opschalen en heeft daar de expertise van Rijk Zwaan en Wageningen bij nodig. Die kunnen zaden, microfinanciering en landbouwexperts leveren waardoor boeren meer gaan produceren.

  27. Henriette Das zegt:

    Sorry vergeten bij te zetten; Uit het NRC next van 27-05-2013.

    Verder: ik ben nieuwsgierig of er nog anderen van deze blog hun stem hebben laten horen tegen Mon Satan afgelopen zaterdag?
    Of moesten wij, 3 dames van een zekere leeftijd ( Mariet, Jo en ondergetekende) de verdediging tegen gif en genetisch gemanipuleerd voer op ons nemen? Wij waren op de Dam.
    De Media hebben deze wereldwijde mars grotendeels geprobeerd te negeren. Of klein te maken door bijvoorbeeld te zeggen dat er in Den Haag maar 60 mensen waren. ( De politie telde er in ieder geval 500). En door van Amsterdam te zeggen 500 aanwezigen. Kijk naar de foto’s…

    Wie zijn ook naar de Mars geweest?

  28. Goede docu over boeren uit India en Monsatan : De link schijnt nog maar een paar dagen geldig te zijn, ik heb hem zelf nog niet kunnen bekijken, hij werd me aanbevolen:

    • Jo, niet om het een of ander, en de vraag die ik ga stellen is ook niet specifiek aan jou gericht, meer in het algemeen. Maar vertel mij eens waarom maakt een paleo-aanhanger zich druk om Monsanto? Ik maak mij daar druk om, omdat mijn lief en mijn kinderen tarwe-producten eten. Ik kan niet zeggen verrekken jullie maar. Buiten mijn clan vind ik het eigenlijk wel best. Noem mij maar een snoodaard !

      • Fien zegt:

        How did it get there? Zouden deze mensen nog nooit van de wind gehoord hebben….

        Ja, je bent een snoodaard, Folkert. Niet voor het eerst dat je dit aankaart. Moeten we deze non-discussie nu echt weer opnieuw voeren? Waarom ik me druk maak om Monsanto (en het milieu, voedselvoorziening, biodiversiteit, groene energie, opwarming van de aarde, blablabla) kan ik toch nooit uitleggen aan iemand die zegt alles buiten zijn clan eigenlijk wel best te vinden.

        • James Pot zegt:

          Mens nog an toe. Heb momenteel helemaal geen tijd, maar als ik even de klep oplicht van de laptop val je toch gelijk met de neus in de boter. Ben het in deze helemaal met Fien eens. Enerzijds mag die MonSatan toestand dan wel buiten de paleo tafel omgaan, en misschien is het meer een discussie voor een venue als Foodlog, maar er is hier iets zo ongelooflijk brutaals en crimineels aan de hand dat dit nooit te vaak aangekaart kan worden. Fien merkte al op de enorme bedreiging van biodiversiteit, iets wat helaas maar al te weinig mensen op werkelijke waarde kunnen schatten, maar de grote leugen is dat genetisch gemanipuleerd zou betekenen grotere opbrengst en dientengevolge een bijdrage aan de wereldwijde voedsel tekorten. De Gates foundation speelt dit deuntje ook. Wat er niet bij verteld wordt dat die grotere opbrengsten alleen gehaald kunnen worden met vrachten kunstmest en met 20 tot 30 % meer water. Dat laatste hebben we al veel te weinig.
          Wie de discussie op Chris Kresser volgt over de duurzaamheid van vlees produktie heeft hier ook al het een en ander over gehoord.
          ”Around 1900 we produced 6 calories of food from 1 calorie of energy expended, it now takes 12 calories of energy to produce 1 calorie of food”
          GMO betekent het eind van de samenleving zoals we die altijd gekend hebben. Kreeg net een e-mail dit weekend van een vriend : ”What is becoming increasingly clear is that we are carboholics. Just as alcoholics create a lot of problems for themselves and their families, carboholics cause truly frightening fallacies for everybody: groundwater depletion, topsoil loss, chemical contamination, increased toxicity in our own bodies, plenty of “dead zones” in the oceans, accelerating extinction of species and reduction of bio-diversity. Did I mention climate change? It is becoming more obvious every day that our lifestyle leads to a dead end, also financially as in an oil-based world the cheap and easily accessible crude is quickly disappearing. That’s why we are employing ever more dangerous and destructive technologies such as hydro-fracturing, deep-water drilling, mountain-top removal, and tar sands extraction to get at the remaining hydrocarbons. No wonder the voices are becoming louder and louder: we are approaching the end of life as we know it: mass extinction.”
          Voor al diegenen die vinden dat het zo’n vaart niet loopt:

          En als je dan nog niet vindt dat hier iets misdadigs aan de hand is ben je wat mij betreft een ‘lost case’. een dickhead.

      • Zo’n soort vraag heb ik inderdaad al eens eerder gesteld. In een ander verband. Hoe ik er over denk mag daarna duidelijk zijn geworden. Nu stel ik een vraag in het kader van hetgeen hier zoal besproken werd.
        Over onze voorouders, de onvrije wil, het brein, de evolutie, onze onmogelijkheid tot handelen. Blijkbaar een vraag die niet gesteld mag worden. Daar ik een klein vermoeden had van de antwoorden, heb ik mezelf alvast een snoodaard genoemd.
        Verwar de vraag niet met de vraagsteller. Bezie mijn vraag als gesteld binnen een comparitie. Geen woorden meer aan vuil maken.

  29. Mariet Hoen zegt:

    Als het nu alleen nog maar het graan was, het gaat veel verder. Soya en granen worden hier gebruikt om het vee te voeren. Alhoewel op voedsel in de winkels móet staan of er GMO in zit, op vlees HOEFT dat niet. Dus we weten niet wat we binnen krijgen ! Als we niet in opstand komen en de Monsanto’s ( er zijn nog meer van deze boeven ) tegenhouden is straks al ons eten besmet.

    Gentech Soja velden voor onze Bio-industrie :

  30. corrien zegt:

    Grappig, hoewel Folkert vraagt het onderwerp te laten rusten, veroorzaakte James’ verhaal bij mij nog een ander gedachtesprong die ik even wil delen;
    Zijn vriend heeft het over ‘carboholics’ en de eerste paar regels las ik dat als koolhydraatverslaafden en vulde voor mezelf al in hoe ‘onze’ KH-verslaving met de daaraan gekoppelde medicatie (deels trouwens ook olieproducten en andere chemicaliën) via ons afvalwater ons milieu vervuilt en daarmee de beschreven problemen veroorzaakt. Hoewel het door James beschreven scenario (zeker op korte termijn) groter is zijn de gevolgen waarschijnlijk vergelijkbaar…. en ook hier zullen de tegenstanders (wij dus) als we echt aan de weg timmeren en de voordelen en besparingen van Paleo propageren enorm sterke reuzen tegenkomen (ik denk niet dat de medicijnboeren onderdoen voor Monsanto en mogelijk zijn ze zelfs al zeer met elkaar verweven).

    • Mariet Hoen zegt:

      Klopt Corrien, zegt de volgende video ook:
      Seeds of Death: Unveiling The Lies of GMO’s –

      “(ik denk niet dat de medicijnboeren onderdoen voor Monsanto en mogelijk zijn ze zelfs al zeer met elkaar verweven)”

  31. Mariet Hoen zegt:

    Nog eentje, als je nog niet overtuigd bent 😉

    Seeds of Death: Unveiling The Lies of GMO’s – Full Movie

    • Mariet en anderen, ik hoef niet overtuigd te worden. Mijn vraag gaat over macht en onmacht. Al eerder aangehaald en geconcludeerd dat het een hopeloze zaak is. Ik heb er al spijt van dat ik de vraag gesteld heb.
      Voortaan zal ik beter nadenken en conclusies voor mezelf houden. Ik dacht werkelijk dat er aan comparitie gedaan kon worden. Fien heeft gelijk Fien. Ik weet niet waar Jan de Wind waait en velen met mij niet. Een ‘lost case’. een dickhead. Van een intelligent man beschouw ik die opmerking als een compliment.

      • Mariet Hoen zegt:

        Folkert, de vraag over macht en onmacht is terecht. Het antwoord kan maar hoeft niet een hopeloze zaak te zijn :

        Dit bericht met de nodige sceptisch lezen, maar toch …

      • Fien zegt:

        Ik kan het totaal niet volgen en ik heb nog wel de moeite genomen het mij onbekende woord “comparitie” op te zoeken. Je vraag ging over macht en onmacht? Nou, dan had je even de moeite moeten nemen om dat duidelijk te maken, vooral in het kader van “onze voorouders, de onvrije wil, het brein, de evolutie, onze onmogelijkheid tot handelen”. Hadden de lezers dat er allemaal zelf bij moeten bedenken? Jouw vraag las als een vraag naar de *motivatie* van anderen. Ik zou zeggen, stel je vraag opnieuw maar dan zonder de vragensteller de hoordrol te geven en op een manier dat anderen begrijpen wat je precies wilt horen.

      • James Pot zegt:

        Folkert jij begrijpt drommels goed dat ik die terminologie niet voor jou bedoelde. Trouwens die laatste zin klinkt nogal kripties en ik ben niet zo goed in kriptologie. Heb ook altijd wat moeite met kryptogrammen. Dat soort benamingen reserveer ik voor figuranten als Obama. En als ik zo verder lees mag je Veerman daar ook onder scharrelen. Had die man toch echt hoger ingeschat. Neem aan dat hij hier geen financieele belangen op het spel heeft, dus de enige conclusie kan zijn, hij weet niet beter, en aangezien er onderhand een zee van literatuur en wetenschappelijk onderzoek beschikbaar is voor wie zich hier van op de hoogte wil stellen, mag je veronderstellen dat hij de positie heeft ingenomen van Ik weet wat ik weet en wat ik weet dat weet ik en kom me niet aan met feiten die niet stroken met wat ik weet. Maar misschien doe ik hem onrecht. Misschien heeft het te maken met ‘cognitive dissonance’. Iemand herinnert zich Festinger nog? “tendency for people to align their thoughts and beliefs to reduce conflict with their actions”…
        Soms vraag ik me ook wel eens af of ik mijn tijd niet beter kan besteden. De hele MonSatan toestand zou wel eens tot gevolg kunnen hebben dat de extreme mono culturen op de helling gaan. Maw waar maken we ons druk over. De mono culturen zijn een bijna even grote bedreiging als het geknoei met de genetische make-up van onze gewassen. Die problemen liggen op een ander terrein, en die problematiek begint -vanwege de zgn delayed action- begint zich in toenemende mate te openbaren.
        Wat die ref. van Mariet betreft, dat is de tweede grote gentech die zich terug trekt uit Europa. Europa terug met hangende pootjes??? Die Jens snapt er helemaal niks van. Heeft hij de ontwikkelingen in Amerika niet gevolgd? Japan heeft alle import van Amerikaanse tarwe stop gezet na de berichten uit Oregon. Reken maar dat daar achter de schermen druk gezwarte piet wordt.
        Maar misschien had mijn grootvader toch gelijk : schuim drijft altijd boven. Zeggen ze trouwens hier ook : Scum always floats to the top.
        Misschien wordt het tijd om man en paard te noemen en als iemand scum is en zich als zodanig gedraagt en opstelt en uitlaat dan kwalificeert hij/zij zich als zodanig.
        En nou is het mooi genoeg. Het is al tien uur geweest. Even tot rust komen. Zijn lange dagen van zons op tot bijna zons onder.

      • Fien zegt:

        James, de heer Veerman huldigt het standpunt dat gentech er nu eenmaal is en niet meer zal verdwijnen. (Wat waar is.) En dus kan je maar beter meedoen. De vaart der volkeren en zo.

      • Voor mij, die traag van geest is, maar vlug van begrip, is het niet mogelijk in een korte zin of in een alinea logisch uit te drukken wat mijn gedachtesprongen zijn. Die gaan van hot naar her en van de hak op de tak. Voor het ontwerpen van een klein bouwwerkje heb ik al honderden schetsen nodig en dan nog weet ik niet verder te gaan, want misschien drijft er wel een beter idee naar boven. Om een beslissing te kunnen nemen heb ik de hulp van anderen nodig. De comparitie ( van compareren ‘ samen verschijnen, vergelijken ‘ ) , zorgt ervoor dat er een paar alternatieven overblijven, die een mogelijke basis gaan vormen voor een verdere ontwikkeling van het ontwerp. Het uitgangspunt is dat men luistert naar de bedoelingen en niet naar wat er gezegd wordt.
        Tot zover deze uitleg. Hetgeen ik vraag is uiteraard alleen maar persoonlijk van aard, vandaar dat de ervaring van de vraagsteller centraal staat. Om één vraag zo te stellen dat anderen begrijpen wat ik precies wil horen, lijkt mij vragen naar de bekende weg. Ik ken die weg niet en weet niet wat ik horen wil. Ik wil horen wat ik niet weet.
        De vraag iets anders gesteld:
        “Maar vertel mij eens wat heeft één, ik bijvoorbeeld, paleo-aanhanger in te brengen tegen Monsanto? En waarom maakt hij/zij zich daar druk over. Persoonlijk maak ik mij daar druk over, omdat mijn lief en mijn kinderen tarwe-producten eten. Ik kan niet zeggen verrekken jullie maar, ze behoren tot mijn familie. Is het niet zo dat in de natuur alles wat buiten de eigen familie valt niet belangrijk is. Buiten mijn clan vind ik het eigenlijk wel best, is het motto. Noem mij maar een snoodaard ! ”
        Zoals gezegd, ik vind het verder voor mij een gesloten onderwerp.

      • Fien zegt:

        @Folkert. Ik hoor nog steeds een vraag naar motivatie. Misschien moet je proberen zelf een antwoord te vinden op dit soort levensvragen, net als andere mensen.

      • Fien, bedoel je met motivatie, de beweegreden van de mens waarom de mens die dingen doet, die hij/zij doet ?

  32. Mariet Hoen zegt:

    Als je niet gelooft dat, wat voor voedsel je eet verschil uitmaakt, dan even naar deze twee kalfjes kijken !

    A tale of two calves — one calf was fed on raw milk, the other on pasteurized

    • Zeker weten dat wat je eet verschil uitmaakt!

      Maar dit “experiment” mag geen experiment heten. Dat kalfjes zijn heel verschillend qua ras/afstamming/erfeljke eigenschappen. Als je beide hetzelfde menu zou geven, zou je ook al grote verschillen te zien krijgen. Is denk ik niet per ongeluk zo gegaan.

      De foto’s zijn van een verschillend standpunt en een andere houding van het dier genomen. Met opzet ongunstig voor het “slechte” kalf.

      Ik griezel van de lever en de nier van het slechte kalf. Zo te zien is het verschil tussen de menu’s niet alleen gepasteuriseerd of ongepasteuriseerd. Het lijkt er sterk op dat speciaal “ouderwets” mestkalvervoer is gebruikt voor het 2e kalf: gericht op blank vlees d.m.v. bloedarmoede. Dat is niet alleen speciaal melkpoeder, maar nog zo het een en ander.

      Niet sterk van die boer om zo je punt te maken….

  33. corrien zegt:

    Hoi Folkert, ik kom je ven steunen. Je hebt gelijk; we leven in onmacht. Nu weren we het hier en straks worden onze kalveren gemest met “het Spaanse graan”

  34. Fien zegt:

    Macht en onmacht, jazeker. Gentech heeft ook erg veel te danken aan mensen op sleutelposities, zonder al die lastige demonstranten en vernielers van gentech proefveldjes. Twee ex-directeuren van Biologica (nu Bionext), alletwee tegenwoordig actief in de biologische sector. Bert van Ruitenbeek zit bij de stichting Zaadgoed, die zich bezighoudt met biologische veredeling en biodiversiteit. Ik vind dat belangrijk en geef daarom jaarlijks een paar tientjes.

    Maar dan die andere ex-directeur, Peter Jens. Oorspronkelijk werkzaam in de olie, ik geloof Texaco. Op Foodlog verviel hij consequent in bijzonder wollig taalgebruik zodra het onderwerp gentech ter sprake kwam en hem om een mening gevraagd werd. Geen ja en geen nee. Zo gaat dat dus, lekker netwerken op blogjes, openlijk aanschurken tegen mensen waar je nog wat aan kunt hebben. Gentech sluipt er op die manier gewoon in. Mijn reactie was toen dat een directeur van Biologica tegen gentech behoort te zijn of anders ander werk moet zoeken. Gelukkig heeft Biologica hem na een jaar eruit geknikkerd (om andere redenen) en nu is het afgelopen met zijn wolligheid. Hij is openlijk voor gentech en zit bij Pura Natura, dat in Nederland godzijdank niet biologisch gecertificeerd is maar wel in de US. PuraNatura wordt gesponsord door onder andere De Ruiter Seeds. Kom maar binnen, Monsanto!

    • willem zegt:

      ‘k Zal het kort houden. Fien, je hebt een punt, een sterk punt, v.w.b. het schaakspel dat gespeeld wordt. Ook ik volg Peter Jens al jaren.Had met hem, lang geleden toen dat nog kon, wel eens een babbeltje. Zijn vertrek als directeur meegekregen, achtergronden van dat ontslag vernomen via een bevriende relatie binnen de bestuurskringen van Biologica. En ik heb dezelfde bewegingen omtrent gentech e.a geconstanteerd, zoals jij aangeeft. En niemand op FL zet daar nu eens de schijnwerper op, zelfs Hendrik Jodokus Kaput, die ongepolijste, knorrige Veenkoloniaal, die het wapen ‘van dik hout zaagt men planken’ hanteert, niet. Onbegrijpelijk!

      • Fien zegt:

        Willem, over zijn vertrek weet ik alleen wat Jens zelf en anderen op FL daarover gezegd hebben. Hij zou teveel veranderingen in Biologica hebben willen doorvoeren en bovendien te weinig fondsen geworven hebben. Ik kan me er wel iets bij voorstellen. Jens wilde de boel eens flink opschudden. Net als Dick Veerman, die er nooit een geheim van heeft gemaakt dat hij sterk voor gentech is en sterk tegen biologische landbouw/veeteelt. Jens had binnen de kortste keren zijn nieuwe makker Veerman gestrikt voor een praatje op een door Biologica georganiseerde dag. Een frisse wind, die ongemerkt wat gentech zaadjes meevoerde. Dat krijg je als je een manager pur sang binnenhaalt die lippendienst bewijst aan jouw idealen. Niks mis met discussies over vernieuwing, maar je kan niet zomaar over principes heenwalsen.

        Uit de recente discussie op FL over de demonstraties tegen Monsanto komen de standpunten haarscherp naar voren. Na de bekendmaking dat Monsanto zich niet meer op Europa zal richten, vindt Veerman dat Europa nu de boot mist. En Jens voegt daar dreigend aan toe dat Monsanto aan het langste eind zal trekken (reculer pour mieux sauter) en een Europa dat op een gegeven moment met hangende pootjes aanklopt, duur zal laten betalen. Met zo’n wereldbeeld heb ik helemaal niks. Geef mij maar de altijd positieve en inspirerende Herman Wijffels die ik onlangs weer eens een hele ochtend mocht beluisteren over duurzaamheid en een nieuwe economie.

        Wat Kaput betreft, ik geloof niet dat hij erg geinteresseerd is in gentech. Het maakt hem niet zoveel uit eigenlijk. Hij is faliekant tegen biologisch in ieder geval. We kennen zijn stokpaardjes en hij vindt Jens okay.

      • willem zegt:

        ‘Niks mis met discussies over vernieuwing, maar je kan niet zomaar over principes heenwalsen.’ Deze van Fien onderstreep ik!
        Gek misschien, maar waar we het nu over hebben, sluit perfect aan bij het onderwerp en zijn inleiding. Manipuleren, dat is het toverwoord en de sleutel. Dat gebeurt doordacht, weloverwogen, sluw.
        Je wilt een voedingsproduct op de markt brengen, zoals dat heet. Dan is slimme marketing geboden. Niet alleen via de spiegeltjes en kraaltjes methode, nee, vooral via het leggen van een link naar het elastische begrip ‘gezond’. En, juist, daartoe staat een heus legertje aan gevierde sprekers paraat. Netwerken, geld en mediaspektakel zijn de aangewezen middelen om je doel, hoge verkoopcijfers en grote winsten, te bereiken.
        Kaput heeft niks tegen bio, maar alles tegen ‘bio kan de mensheid voeden’, Fien, meen ik.

  35. Jo tB zegt:

    Wat mij ontzettend veel zorg baarde toen ik de link plaatste over het GMO tarwe:

    and they didn’t die when he sprayed them with Roundup.

    Grizzelig idea vond it dat. Wat moet er gebeuren om die tarwe wel uit te roeien. We hebben de monster van Frankenstein weer gecreëerd. Waar gaat het eindigen?

    Ik persoonlijk vind dat de discussie of GMO en Monsanto WEL op deze blog besproken moet worden. Aangezien ik al een oude tulp ben, kan ik zeggen het dient mijn tijd wel uit, maar klinkt puur egoistisch. Ikke, ikke, ikke, en de rest kan stikken. Kop in de zand steken, en het waait wel over? Daar wil ik niet aan meedoen. Het gaat niet om ons maar om de geslachten die na ons komen. Als we zo doorgaan dan roeien we onszelf op den duur wel uit. Als het niet in de paleo sfeer thuishoort, waar dan wel? Daarom ben ik naar de demonstratie tegen Monsanto gegaan. Niet gaan is wat mij betreft instemmen met wat Monsanto doet. Dat het al danig uit de hand gelopen is, bewijst het stukje over het verwilderde GMO tarwe. Ik wil een bescheiden protest laten horen. Alle verzet begint klein, maar wat klein begint kan een enorme vlucht nemen. De paleo beweging is daar een goed voorbeeld van.

    Vechten tegen Monsanto is vechten tegen de bierkaai. Dus dan maar niet beginnen, bij de pakken gaan neerzitten. Kan ik doen want ik heb geen nageslacht waarvoor ik het zou doen. Dat is egoistisch van me. Misschien is mijn bescheiden bijdrage een druppel op een gloeiende plaat, maar ik doe het toch. Zoals ik al eerder gezegd heb in een andere post: één druppel telt niet, maar wanneer het een miljard druppels wordt dan gebeurt er toch wat.

  36. Jo tB zegt:

    Volgens gaan de graanboeren Monsanto voor de rechter dagen: Washington and Kansas wheat farmers have already filed lawsuits against Monsanto due to the immediate harm this disaster has created.

    Today, after hundreds of farmers have been sued for patent infringement after Monsanto’s patented seeds were found growing where they weren’t supposed to, we know how ridiculous such assertions are.
    Ze krijgen dus blijkbaar een koekje van eigen deeg…..

  37. Jo tB zegt:

    Op Mercola vond ik onder de comments de volgende link. Het ging over massale bijensterfte over de hele wereld waarvan Monsanto ook grotendeels te schuld krijgt.

  38. Jo tB zegt:

    James Pot heeft een link geplaatst op zijn FB pagina waarin duidelijk wordt gesteld wat de gevaren zijn van genetische manipulatie. Die hoort hier ook thuis.

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